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Post by guillaume on Apr 20, 2009 15:42:18 GMT
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Post by Hemingway on Apr 21, 2009 6:25:13 GMT
Les Miserables is my favorite show. I love "I dreamed a dream". "On my Own" is probably my favorite number from the show as a whole though. When it was in Ireland last I went to THREE performances. Colm Wilkinson was play Jean Valjean and he blew me away. You see Guillaume? Even athiests have a deep appriciation of music & musicals. We are not strange creatures at all. We are exactly the same as you. Therefore your comment of "even the most atheist won't be touched" is quite odd to me. We are human beings who love and feel just like you......... The only difference between the religious and athiests is that athiests require proof to substantiate claims rather than just accept them as truths because someone says so. Its the same standard that is required in any court of law. Is that unreasonable?
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Post by guillaume on Apr 21, 2009 13:56:05 GMT
It was a bit of a joke, Hemingway, "un clin d'oeil" if you prefer.
Last sunday was the Divine Mercy sunday. It was brilliantly celebrated here in Wexford (last for 2 hours and 30 minutes !) according to NOM standards. And you were in our prayers, as we prayed for the "whole world". During the novena of the Divine Mercy, we also pray for those "who do not know or recognise Christ". ,It is not us, though, who give mercy, but Christ.
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Post by Hemingway on Apr 21, 2009 14:50:43 GMT
It was a bit of a joke, Hemingway, "un clin d'oeil" if you prefer. Last sunday was the Divine Mercy sunday. It was brilliantly celebrated here in Wexford (last for 2 hours and 30 minutes !) according to NOM standards. And you were in our prayers, as we prayed for the "whole world". During the novena of the Divine Mercy, we also pray for those "who do not know or recognise Christ". ,It is not us, though, who give mercy, but Christ. Well thank you for the prayers I guess.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Apr 21, 2009 19:51:36 GMT
It was a bit of a joke, Hemingway, "un clin d'oeil" if you prefer. Last sunday was the Divine Mercy sunday. It was brilliantly celebrated here in Wexford (last for 2 hours and 30 minutes !) according to NOM standards. And you were in our prayers, as we prayed for the "whole world". During the novena of the Divine Mercy, we also pray for those "who do not know or recognise Christ". ,It is not us, though, who give mercy, but Christ. Well thank you for the prayers I guess. Well, Hemmingway, Guillaume is trying to wind you up and that is the best response to it. ;D
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Apr 21, 2009 19:54:47 GMT
On the other hand, Guillaume is a Frenchman. The number is from the musical 'Les Miserables' based on Hugo's novel. Notwithstanding Victor Hugo's appeal for a priest on his deathbed, he was a secularist/republican in life. So, Guillaume what is your attitude to Hugo as a French trad?
I am interested, and I also playing the devil's advocate here.
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Post by guillaume on Apr 25, 2009 6:31:42 GMT
On the other hand, Guillaume is a Frenchman. The number is from the musical 'Les Miserables' based on Hugo's novel. Notwithstanding Victor Hugo's appeal for a priest on his deathbed, he was a secularist/republican in life. So, Guillaume what is your attitude to Hugo as a French trad? I am interested, and I also playing the devil's advocate here. French, yes, "trad" more or less. I am certainly more trad than the average catholic, more certainly less "trad" by most "trad".... Anyway, being educated by the French-mandatory-left-wing-republican-laic-government's controlled education, my last souvenir of Hugo is far far away. Certainly he is a brilliant writer, novelist and poet, maybe one of the greatest.
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Post by guillaume on Apr 26, 2009 17:01:26 GMT
By the way that was not the voice of a mythical being aka an angel. It was the voice of a human being. Thats just a small example of how anti human organised religionism is. Humans should get credit for being human. Atheist useless remarks of this kind are not welcomed in this part of the forum. You can write your comment somewhere else.
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Post by hibernicus on Apr 27, 2009 12:26:01 GMT
Well, Ezigbotutu, it follows from your remark that the idea of an angel is a human creation. It is therefore quite legitimate to celebrate it as a great human accomplishment, and to praise a particularly fine and beautiful performance ofr approximating to it. Were the Renaissance artists, or the Russian ikon painter Andrei Rublev, anti-human when they painted angels? Was Frank Capra anti-human when he made IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (albeit that movie does portray angels as the souls of the dead rather than pre-existent spiritual beings). I might add that even for thsoe who believe in angels, the idea and image of an angel is a great human creation, as the reality is at present beyond human expression. We see here a good example of how atheism can produce a reductionism which denies some of the greatest human achievements because they cannot be explained in purely rationialist/materialist terms. Spinoza, Nietzsche, Hume, I apologise on behalf of humanity for the way Ezigbotutu has misrepresented you.
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Post by veritas on Apr 30, 2009 4:33:18 GMT
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Post by hazelireland on Apr 30, 2009 6:14:55 GMT
Only got to this now. She seems a lovely person and she sang well.
At the risk of bursting anyone's bubble of course, it is clearly scripted and the judges knew what to expect despite how they acted.
Still, I will have to subscribe to some update service and keep a track on how she did/does. Anyone been following it?
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