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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Feb 3, 2023 19:18:53 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Feb 12, 2023 0:06:25 GMT
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Mar 16, 2023 12:22:24 GMT
I don't believe the Bishop of Osnabrück, Mgr Franz-Josef Bode, should be a poster boy for anything given his appalling record on abuse of minors by the clergy, but right now, he's the one that's running the gauntlet on the blessing of same sex unions: www.pillarcatholic.com/francis-germany-and-the-schism-card/The Pope has reacted to much less.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Mar 16, 2023 17:56:42 GMT
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Mar 21, 2023 12:06:47 GMT
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Mar 26, 2023 16:42:25 GMT
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Mar 28, 2023 22:43:56 GMT
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on May 10, 2023 16:47:46 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Aug 16, 2023 23:57:55 GMT
Cardinal Tagle's public pledges of loyalty to Pope Francis as incarnation of the Spirit of Vatican II apparently hasn't done him much good. The interview also notes that the recent changes to Caritas International have produced control by the global North at the expense of the global South, and that some invocations of "synodality" appear to define that term as "doing whatever the Pope orders without question". (To be fair on the North/South point, note the comment by "Emily" that there have been serious problems with Caritas corruption in some countries.) www.pillarcatholic.com/p/former-caritas-sec-gen-cardinal-tagle/comments
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Feb 20, 2024 17:41:21 GMT
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Post by Devotus Immaculatae on Feb 22, 2024 12:26:45 GMT
If this becomes actual policy going forward, to me it seems a worrying development. I'm not so sure conservative Bishop's concerns are based on only cultural grounds. Then again I don't have personal knowledge of the bigger picture Rome perhaps has.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Feb 22, 2024 13:05:47 GMT
If this becomes actual policy going forward, to me it seems a worrying development. I'm not so sure conservative Bishop's concerns are based on only cultural grounds. Then again I don't have personal knowledge of the bigger picture Rome perhaps has. You could equally argue that the German and Belgian Churches are only pushing the envelope on same sex blessings on cultural grounds.
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Post by Young Ireland on Feb 22, 2024 13:08:03 GMT
If this becomes actual policy going forward, to me it seems a worrying development. I'm not so sure conservative Bishop's concerns are based on only cultural grounds. Then again I don't have personal knowledge of the bigger picture Rome perhaps has. You could equally argue that the German and Belgian Churches are only pushing the envelope on same sex blessings on cultural grounds. Or financial grounds in the case of the former.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Feb 22, 2024 13:23:50 GMT
You could equally argue that the German and Belgian Churches are only pushing the envelope on same sex blessings on cultural grounds. Or financial grounds in the case of the former. Very much on financial grounds on the part of some, but there is an ideological cohort in the German Church too, which is not representative of the faithful in Germany which is driving this movement. BTW, I don't believe those German church bureaucrats who believe same sex blessings will keep the Kirchensteuer rolling in have done their homework properly. I believe the faithful Catholics are staying but the secularised Catholics will leave anyway. What is happening here is that the first generation of lapsed Catholics continued to pay the Church Tax because Catholic weddings and funerals meant something to them. Their children don't have the same commitment and even staging weddings for divorcees or same sex couples won't keep them in.
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Post by Devotus Immaculatae on Feb 22, 2024 15:38:25 GMT
If this becomes actual policy going forward, to me it seems a worrying development. I'm not so sure conservative Bishop's concerns are based on only cultural grounds. Then again I don't have personal knowledge of the bigger picture Rome perhaps has. You could equally argue that the German and Belgian Churches are only pushing the envelope on same sex blessings on cultural grounds. That’s true. The thought of considering theological development on monetary grounds is even harder to for me to fathom, but then again, I don't prioritise thinking in monetary terms when it comes to Catholicism. I think it possible to focus on the universal and timeless aspects of Catholicism while finding ways to connect with and address the specific needs of the current society.
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