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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jul 21, 2020 16:22:45 GMT
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Post by assisi on Jul 23, 2020 16:19:36 GMT
Sort of wish I hadn't watched that.
The philosophy he has is we are all different and all difference should be celebrated, no matter what these differences are, or what the consequences the difference may ultimately lead to. By that philosophy we should march alongside our adulterers too should they wish to have a parade. Or alongside atheists, candle-stick makers, cage fighters, crony capitalists, abortionists, tax collectors and prostitutes.
We are being asked to overlook all sin and transgression and accept every human being in their sin because of some new age mulch about harmony in rainbow colours. There is zero Christ in that video and 100% secular permissive materialism.
This is exactly why the Church is crying out for strong Catholic men and women, not wimps who want to be darlings of the media and liberals.
At least it has more downvotes than upvotes.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 24, 2020 20:36:20 GMT
The current issue of the CATHOLIC VOICE has an article about this video. A few points that come to mind: - So far as I recall he doesn't mention God or Jesus once; it's all about feeling good with yourself. (Note his reference to learning from members of all faiths and none, which implies the Chaplaincy is not there to minister to members of particular faiths but to be entirely interdenominational, like a counselling service.) -He is acting as an official representative of the chaplaincy and therefore of Oglaigh ne h-Eireann, not in a personal capacity. I wonder what would happen to a chaplain who refused to attend such a parade or send such a message? Or what sort of ministry an Armed Forces member holding fast to traditional Christian teaching on sexuality can expect from such a chaplaincy? (Note BTW that the marchers are dressed in uniform, which makes them representatives of the Defence Forces rather than individuals who attend in a personal capacity.) - The Chaplaincy crest shown on the video is explicitly Catholic, with the Eucharistic vessels and the motto FIDES ET PATRIA. This is a nice example of Neutron Bomb Catholicism, where the symbols are retained when the substance behind them has evaporated.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 30, 2020 19:02:40 GMT
Fr Tony Flannery draws attention to a "respected" Irish Augustinian Bible scholar called Kieran J O'Mahony, head of Bible studies at "Holy Cross Diocesan Centre" (formerly a seminar, in dim and distant days) who has proclaimed in a letter to the TABLET that Jesus did not ordain anyone, did not found a Church, and had no idea of a mission extending beyond his own Jewish people. Fr Flannery points out that this is exactly what he was suspended for saying. Indeed it is. www.tonyflannery.com/respected-scripture-scholar-accepts-that-jesus-did-not-ordain-anyone-or-found-a-church/ Fr Flannery, it seems, has perpetrated another book which has just been sent off to his publishers.
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 20, 2020 23:47:51 GMT
Fr PJ Hughes of Mullahoran, Co. Cavan (near the boundary with Longford) is being criticised for announcing on RTE that he is continuing to sa Mass for his congregation. The link below gives his views and those of a health expert. On present form I predict Fr Hughes will be rapped over the knuckles by higher ecclesiastical authority in the near future: www.rte.ie/news/regional/2020/1120/1179390-mass-cavan/ This remark by the health expert gives me concern: EXTRACT Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Claire Byrne programme, Dr Scally said that while he appreciates people can have strong religious views and faith, this can be exercised in individual worship and not collectively in the current times. END OF EXTRACT It's not the same thing - doesn't he understand that?
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Oct 13, 2021 21:03:29 GMT
One problem in regard to Tony Flannery is not his views, but that he is parroting other people's views. Let's face it. We are talking about a theological lightweight who is shopping around theologians to get one that suits himself. The Augustinian Kieran O'Mahony gets picked and he has a doctorate which in this instant reminds me more of a quote from the economist Kenneth Galbraith: He uses statistics like a drunk uses a lamp-post; for support rather than illumination. So it goes with Fr O'Mahony's doctorate. But there is nothing unusual about theologians holding this thesis, here that Christ didn't institute a priesthood. And there are many more where that came from.
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Post by Young Ireland on Nov 26, 2021 21:48:53 GMT
One problem in regard to Tony Flannery is not his views, but that he is parroting other people's views. Let's face it. We are talking about a theological lightweight who is shopping around theologians to get one that suits himself. The Augustinian Kieran O'Mahony gets picked and he has a doctorate which in this instant reminds me more of a quote from the economist Kenneth Galbraith: He uses statistics like a drunk uses a lamp-post; for support rather than illumination. So it goes with Fr O'Mahony's doctorate. But there is nothing unusual about theologians holding this thesis, here that Christ didn't institute a priesthood. And there are many more where that came from. Going off topic a bit here, but Dr. Galbraith's quote was suprising to me as someone for a statistics background, since we are specifically trained to use statistics to support any hypothesis. Maybe that makes all drunks, I don't know
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 28, 2021 23:12:08 GMT
The issue with Fr Flannery is not just his views but his assumptions. It is pretty clear that he takes it for granted that Jesus did not institute a church and a priesthood, and regards the possibility that He did exactly that as so ridiculous that it need not be considered. He's arguing from authority, and setting himself up as an authority on the strength of it, rather than constructing his own argument/analysis. That is what Gramsci meant when he spoke of cultural "hegemony" in a society - beliefs which are seen as too obvious to need examination.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 26, 2022 21:40:26 GMT
Well, you could say that Tony Flannery and Séamus Madigan (God help us, Head Chaplain to the Forces) are part of the neo-clericalist class that make their own assumptions based on a poor grasp of theology and look down their noses at the rest of us, the great unwashed. Someone like Kieran O'Mahoney provides them with limp-wristed intellectual backing (I read an interview with O'Mahoney in the Irish Catholic; it appears he studied biblical languages with a view to showing that Balthasar was wrong. Maybe he was, but I doubt O'Mahoney is right. He certainly doesn't have the courage of his convictions to set aside his priesthood if he really believes it was not of divine institution).
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 12, 2022 18:58:28 GMT
One of the downsides of some conservative and liberal commentators is the assumption (for different reasons) that pre-conciliar popular Catholicism was wholly inauthentic and its disappearance is therefore not to be regretted. St Louis de Montfort and St Alphonsus Liguori might beg to differ. I'm not saying it was flawless - as, for example, the Italian mafia's use of Catholic devotional rituals or numerous examples of pharisaism and hypocrisy nearer home prove. I'm just saying it is too easily dismissed as entirely valueless.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 26, 2023 22:43:07 GMT
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