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Post by Young Ireland on Jul 18, 2022 21:43:41 GMT
As is now the norm, the National Party were out in force again for the Rally for Life, with their youth wing handing out leaflets declaring that "Ireland's Families are Ireland's Future". What was different this time is that a month earlier, one of the NP's official accounts had published a tweet defending the practice of eugenics in principle: As a result, I asked a number of the leafleters it this was actually NP policy. One waved me away, saying that he did not want to get into a debate, while another referred me to a third individual, who confirmed that the NP were indeed pro-eugenics. When I pressed him on how eugenics is leading to the mass abortion of Down Syndrome babies, and historically to sterlisations of those deemed "unfit", he did say that the party did not support these, which I fully accept. Instead, he said it was about good nutrition and exercise. This may well be the case, but these practices are called living a healthy lifestyle, and is good regardless of its effects on the "race". Calling it eugenics, which has a much darker history, will only lead to confusion, and gives the impression that the likes of Marie Stopes and Margaret Sanger had the right ideas, but went about it the wrong way. ADDENDUM: I should also add that when questioned whether or not those not meeting the ideal would be considered "inferior", the NP member said no, of course not. As an aside, I read Helen Joyce's remarks and there is nothing about eugenics in it. She has deliberately been misconstrued by the rainbow brigade in order to close her down. Joyce is a very articulate advocate against the idea of men becoming women just because they feel it, and she is against their push to compel us all to validate and celebrate their fantasies. Joyce is Irish, one of her brothers was captain of Ireland cricket team. She is an atheist, her analysis is very good but she fell in my opinion when she criticised Matt Walsh's recent video 'What is a woman'. She said that it was a good video but marred by the fact that Walsh is a conservative Catholic and therefore a sexist because he has criticised feminism. A pretty big assumption to make and one that doesn't help her logic as she herself (rightly) rails against being misrepresented. You're right Assisi, having come across her original remarks, she actually said that she wanted to reduce the number of people "transitioning" - which is desirable not just for moral reasons but because multilating one's body in such a manner irreversably is bound to have lifelong consequences. It certainly cannot be considered a defence of eugenics in any shape or form.
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 12, 2022 19:10:53 GMT
To sum up, the most charitable interpretation of this tweet is that a senior NP member (senior enough to use a party twitter account) doesn't know what eugenics means, or hasn't the cop-on to use a term with less sinister associations (health and fitness, for example).
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Dec 8, 2022 15:49:24 GMT
According to the Phoenix, Justin is quoting Mein Kampf these days.
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Post by hibernicus on Dec 10, 2022 23:09:06 GMT
As I mentioned in the previous thread, Justin plagiarises MEIN KAMPF in at least one passage of THE NATIONAL WAY FORWARD his manifesto from 20 years ago. I say plagiarised because he incorporates it in his text without giving the source; I happen to have read that book for professional reasons, and a very nasty read it is too, which is how I recognised the quote.
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Post by hibernicus on May 2, 2024 21:57:03 GMT
Justin Barrett has sunk even lower, which I hadn't believed was possible. He is now openly praising Hitler (see the "empty uniform" piece quoted on the thread linked below){ politics.ie/threads/the-national-partys-gold-reserves-go-missing.288004/page-15and imitating Hitler's speech intonation and hand gestures at the launch of his new party (whose Celtic-design symbol suspiciously resembles a swastika): politics.ie/threads/the-national-partys-gold-reserves-go-missing.288004/page-14Note also his dismissal of democracy as "dumbocratic" in favour of the leadership principle that worked out so well for his hero. The Phoenix states Barrett himself is lamenting on social media that the media didn't notice the antisemitism in his speech. Nobody calling themselves pro-life, pro-family, Christian/Catholic or possessing one shred of decency should vote for, or have anything to do with, Mr Barrett, or his present and former political associates of the National Party in any shape or form.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 3, 2024 11:46:22 GMT
I see he is running in Midlands North West (or whatever it is). Can't say I have a lot of confidence in some of the rival candidates. Just at the moment, from what I can see Michael McNamara is the stand out non-establishment candidate in the South, Niall Boylan of Independent Ireland in Dublin and Peadar Tóibín of Aontú in Midlands North West. There are plenty of others and I know these don't always totally align with what we might want, but we'll never get perfect politicians. But I think these have the best chance in the pack.
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Post by maolsheachlann on May 5, 2024 0:07:59 GMT
I'll assign my preferences to every nationalist party/candidate over every globalist candidate, which means all the mainstream parties.
We see how supposedly Christian Democrat-inspired internationalism is working out with the EU proclaiming abortion a right.
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Post by Devotus Immaculatae on May 5, 2024 15:16:55 GMT
I'll assign my preferences to every nationalist party/candidate over every globalist candidate, which means all the mainstream parties. We see how supposedly Christian Democrat-inspired internationalism is working out with the EU proclaiming abortion a right. As this post will undoubtedly reveal, I hold a profound disdain for politics, in church, work or state, even as inevitable as it might sometimes be. However, with the election season upon us, much to the chagrin of the readers of this forum, I now feel inspired and compelled to share my thoughts that you probably could do without. Regrettably in a former life, and due to youthful naivety, I ended up working regularly with many politicians. I in turn witnessed either the swift departure of the naive and honest from the political arena, or instead their infection and festering descent into dishonesty and clientelism, and most especially of all, almost without exception, when they get into government and appear to get their own hands on the purse and the levers, yet they discover they must then use them like proxies. New proxies for the same international patrons. Same pantomime, same producers, just different actors on the stage, and the stalls clapping like seals thinks its a new show. These days, with a heavy heart and leaden steps, I trudge my way to down to the ballot box for every vote, meticulously scouring the ballot paper in search of the least objectionable options. Each futile stroke of the pencil fills me with a sickening sense of dread, yet I am acutely aware that abstaining from voting, or spoiling my vote, is an even greater transgression and futility than reluctantly endorsing the least worst options. I yearn for candidates and leaders who can at least surpass me in knowledge, ethics and intelligence, a bar I don't deem excessively high, given I'm just your average mid wit. Yet, such individuals in politics seem to be a rare breed indeed. I must agree that the only slim prospect of any genuine change in Ireland, however imperfect, rests in endorsing non-mainstream parties and candidates. One would think that after enduring countless financial scandals and instances of malfeasance, the Irish people would have learned this lesson. However, time and again, they exhibit a baffling collective amnesia, repeating and compounding the same mistakes with each election cycle, and swimming around the same goldfish bowl again. We became captivated by the small, boxy devil's tabernacle in our living rooms, collectively mesmerised in weekly adoration of "Dallas"... we prayed and wished for exactly that, and so, now we live in it. Now we carry it around pyx like in our pocket and stare at it like Gollums. Thank God in heaven for any remaining grace or faith, and please God we water and tend to it like the last surviving plants in a drought.
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Post by hibernicus on May 5, 2024 22:38:36 GMT
I will vote for the best candidate I can get even if I disagree with them on some issues. I won't vote for a self-avowed Nazi under any circumstances, just as I wouldn't vote for a hardcore Marxist.
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Post by maolsheachlann on May 6, 2024 12:18:54 GMT
I will vote for the best candidate I can get even if I disagree with them on some issues. I won't vote for a self-avowed Nazi under any circumstances, just as I wouldn't vote for a hardcore Marxist. That applies to Justin Barrett, who is vile, but hardly the National Party in general. I'm not a big fan of them but I disagree that no Catholic etc. should ever vote for them. I see them as a legitimate protest vote.
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Post by hibernicus on May 6, 2024 21:06:51 GMT
The Barrett faction of the National Party is run on the "leadership principle" - i.e. dictatorship - by Barrett. That pretty clearly rules them out. The Reynolds faction have questionable judgement at the very least since they associated themselves with Barrett's posturing for so long - the explicit nazism is new but Barrett's longterm advocacy of dictatorship and use of fascist symbolism is longterm. A HOT PRESS journalist who infiltrated Youth Defenc in the 90s also presents Reynolds making some questionable statements, for what that is worth. Sorry, but I think the NP ntand is permanently contaminated and can only do harm to any cause with which it is associated. Individual members may rehabilitate themselves over time but I would be wary until they have proven themselves. I am willing to overlook a lot of disagreement, but the NP (especially the Barrett faction) and Gemma O'Doherty are something else entirely. There are other options.
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Post by hibernicus on Jun 11, 2024 22:13:23 GMT
Mr Reynolds has stated that he may run for election again, but not under the National Party label which he describes as toxic. I was surprised that the NP elected a councillor in Dublin (I believe from the Reynolds faction) and that Justin and Rebecca Barrett did not come bottom of the poll in their constituencies. Rebecca B's tweet ordering a Chinese takeaway from Hazel Chu and telling her to hold the bat is still being circulated on discussion fora, with participants asking whether this nasty little piece of racism is genuine. Alas, it is. I disagree with Ms Chu politically but taunting her for being Chinese is abominable.
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Post by hibernicus on Jun 25, 2024 20:15:01 GMT
Justin Barrett continues his slide into infamy. He admits in the video interview towards the bottom of the page that when he talks about "international finance capital", "globalisers" etc he means Jews. He says he got his views on the "Jewish question" from reading MEIN KAMPF, starting at the age of 8. He claims Jews run pro-abortion activism in Ireland and elsewhere. This will be used by the pro-aborts to present all pro-lifers as anti-semites and nazis in disguise. The fact that by his own account he was already a Hitler fan when he was in Youth Defence doesn't say much for YD's discernment, to put it mildly. The military-looking uniform I think is meant to make him look like Michael Collins, whom he mourns as a lost dictator in THE NATIONAL WAY FORWARD! He also claims he groomed his wife into anti-semitism and that she was initially a pro-lifer without anti-semitic views. Note his references to "intuition" which is his substitute for analytic thought. (As AE Housman said, thought is difficult and thirty seconds is a long time.) He specifically says his anti-semitism is ethnic, not religious and that converts are still part of the Jewish conspiracy. He slanders the late Cardinal Lustiger, saying that converts are not supposed to be bishops. (He has not checked the history of the modern hierarchy of England and Wales, several of whom over the last 200 years have been converts.) He denounces Vatican II as "a semitic triumph". No doubt there is further drivel for anyone who has the patience to sit through this stuff. politics.ie/threads/the-national-partys-gold-reserves-go-missing.288004/page-17This by the way is the affiliation of the person carrying out the interview (who calls himself a third positionist national socialist). The organisation in question has terrorist associations and has been banned in Finland and listed by the US as an international terrorist group. Birds of a feather flock together. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Resistance_MovementThe interview is with
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Jul 3, 2024 12:29:15 GMT
Justin Barrett continues his slide into infamy. He admits in the video interview towards the bottom of the page that when he talks about "international finance capital", "globalisers" etc he means Jews. He says he got his views on the "Jewish question" from reading MEIN KAMPF, starting at the age of 8. Where would he have got Mein Kampf at the age of eight? No, and my understanding was that he was a guru within YD before he was unmasked. Even then, they were slow to disassociate with him, and it was mainly his initiative. And did he begin this before or after he left his previous wife and children? What about the Apostles? What about St Augustine? This fellow clearly doesn't know the faith. I still don't think that there is a proper understanding of how much damage Justin Barrett has done.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 6, 2024 17:06:36 GMT
A few suggestions: Some public libraries in large towns might have a copy of MEIN KAMPF, or there might be one lying about - people can accumulate the strangest things. That said, I agree with you that 8 sounds a bit early - perhaps Justin is imitating his hero by lying about his precocity in order to reinforce his self-image as a man of destiny? On the other hand, Justin's uncritical regurgitation in THE NATIONAL WAY FORWARD of Hitler's argument that there is no point in having an opposition because it is ridiculous to choose one set of politicians to govern the country and another lot to stop the first lot from doing anything does sound like someone who swallowed a simplistic and fallacious argument when he was just starting to think and thereafter gets stuck in a paranoid loop where any argument against this pet nostrum is rejected in advance because it contradicts the Obvious Truth. Certain types of infantile atheist some to mind, as also a certain sort of monarchist fantasist. The implication is that he began the political grooming process soon after he met her (giving her weekly assignments on the number of Jews involved in this or that aspect of world affairs). About the connection between this and the other sort of grooming, Justin for once is discreet. I agree that the harm Justin has already done is immeasurable, and he is likely to do even more. Not only is his Hitler fanboyism likely to attract a certain number of the alienated and deranged who may be given to volatile behaviour, but he is the gift that just keeps on giving to those who want to portray all pro-lifers as nazis. Ever since I heard (as much as I could stand of) Justin Barrett's ranterview about Jewish converts as infiltrators, I find myself thinking of an elderly man I knew called Cecil Hurwitz, a convert from Judaism to Catholicism, of quiet and gentle disposition, who was active in the pro-life movement at the time of the 1983 referendum. HE wrote an interesting little memoir called FROM SYNAGOGUE TO CHURCH, which discusses how he organised an annual Mass for peace and has some strong comments on the harm done by casual anti-semitism (not that I am accusing Justin of CASUAL anti-semitism; there's nothing casual about his version.) Cecil may not have been famous, but he made a positive contribution to life. Justin's contribution, in contrast, is decidedly of the minus variety and likely to become even more so. The smugness with which Justin sneers at the "Holocough - cough - cough" in that interview is absolutely unbearable to anyone who knows anything about the subject, and the way in which he and his nazi interlocutor throw around the word "faggot" like two little boys congratulating each other on how daring and naughty they are is risible.
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