I notice in the Churchtown case the effect is to do away with the remnants of the traditional arrangement of the church (removing the side altars, pushing the table forward so that it is positioned between the two transepts and is as near to "celebration in the round" as you can get in a cruciform building). This will also have the advantage of reducing the seating and so making it slightly less apparent how much smaller the congregation is now than it was when the church was built. This is by the look of it one of John Charles McQuaid's big bare barn churches and has already experienced some wreckovation at some stage (removal of the altar rail etc) so the loss is not quite as striking as when an olde church is wreckovated. Still depressing though as it shows the trendy liturgical emphasis on "community celebration" over sacrifice nd a further move away from orientation.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Feb 3, 2012 14:24:05 GMT
Yes - Churchtown is 57 years old and one of John Charles' projects.
At the time it was the first partition in the geographically huge Rathfarnham parish - the biggest territorial parish in Ireland until 1968. It went from Churchtown to Newlands Cross to the county boundary between Dublin and Wicklow in the mountains and had several chapels-of-ease and religious houses in it. Domininican scholasticate in Tallaght, Jesuit novitiate in Rathfarnham, Augustinian Novititiate in Orlagh and Scholasticate in Ballyboden, Loreto novitiate in Rathfarnham (among whose alumnae was Blessed Teresa of Calcutta), Carmel in Firhouse.
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