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Post by Los Leandros on Aug 26, 2011 8:41:47 GMT
John Waters has a brilliant article in today's Irish Times re. the intellectual degradation & negative/re-active nature of Irish society - not sparing the appalling level of what passes for journalism in this country. His analysis is perfectly validated by comparison with a piece of puerile/feminist drivel in the Indo. by Martina Devlin. Doctrinaire feminism & socialism have a lot to answer for !.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 21:40:32 GMT
Can you copy and paste or do you read an actual real life 3d newspaper? I like John Waters. I stop short of buying the Irish Times because I can't bear their viewpoint on, well, almost everything and can't stomach supporting them financially. Is Waters worth the cover price though, perhaps I should reconsider..
Did he name names or give hints as to who these journalists were, in particular? Didn't Martina used to write for the Evening Herald? 'Nuff said. What was she on about?
I did spot in Hot Press a cartoon featuring David Norris looking heartbroken pleading mercy for his friend who had sex with a young man and an evil looking Gay Mitchell looking for mercy for a rapist. I'm not sure of the exact words but it demonised a TD supporting our stance against execution versus a Senator who used official paper to ask for pardon for something that is a crime here too. Madness.
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Post by Los leandros on Aug 27, 2011 11:37:31 GMT
Sorry Banaltra, read it on-line yesterday. He did'nt name names but essentially he targeted the whole philosophical vacuity of the entire Irish establishment - political, journalist, the liberal/feminist commentariat in general. I have long held the view that Irish society has become gradually much more intellectually/morally infantilised over the last 20/30 years. Gay Byrne's much heralded opening up of society leading to so-called enlightenment is quite the opposite - resulting in a cheap/vulgar pseudo-sophistication. On a sort of related theme a woman from Dun Laoghaire has a brilliant letter in today's Indo. defending Bishop Boyce, & taking to task Martina Devlin. Sorry for rambling !.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2011 19:58:44 GMT
That's because Gay lead the way on sharing and caring your most intimate feelings with the whole country. And it was okay to do so because he's Uncle Gaybo. We feel we know these people and so they can be trusted. It's the whole country that's listening though! Besides, Uncle Gaybo ain't that smart, ask any psych nurse trying to deal with young men and women coming in, habitually smoking pot, and now in acute units suffering from acute mental illnessess, whether cannabis should be legalised. Anyway I digress, journalists should be about reporting facts. Columnists can give their opinions. Now of course, I'm not at all denying that every paper has it's own agenda but journalists are so unoriginal and rant on without even a nod towards the art of subtlety. And people lap it up, yeah go on you tell' em! You know what though, if it were televised half the newspaper articles in tabloids certainly, would be akin to Jeremy Kyle on a slow day. Shouting opinions as if they were facts started off with the likes of Gay Byrne because people were given a special seat knowing the nation was watching and they felt special, and because they were talking to Gaybo in the confessional seat (oh the irony) it must be true. Likewise with journalists, they think they are on a special seat and the nation is watching. So anything they say is gold and worth saying because they are on the seat, rather than their work being of such merit it deserves such an audience. And many think that because they have that special job they must be experts. I can't tell you how many times I've asked for a source when someone tells me something they read in the papers, and so it must be true... That whole ego trip has lead to reality tv and everyone having a blog and collecting as many friends as possible on facebook, because now they really exist since it's on a tv/website. The oddity when I see people holding up their cameras at concerts to download later, and they watch the concert through the camera screen. Only through a screen do things really exist, being present in the moment is not enough. Maybe that's why my little Adoration chapel has only a handful of people below 60 there of an evening, instead of at home watching a soap opera with people watching their own tvs in Coronation Street. Teach children rhetoric and apologetics and philosophy, make people think for themselves. Maybe that would change things... As to DĂșn Laoghaire Lady, yeah go on, you tell 'em!
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Post by Los Leandros on Aug 29, 2011 8:51:18 GMT
Absolutely agree. Your point about Uncle Gaybo's pseudo-confessional ( without the saving sacramental grace, of course ) is well made. This might explain a particular piece he had on totally denigrating/sneering at the concept of Catholic confession - he obviously felt his cheap grace was superior !. Likewise with our journalist/commentariat friends. Have you noticed how incestuous Irish journalism is. RTE have an assembly line of these vacuous liberal/feminist clones ready to spout their anti-Catholic ( that's the only time they get really animated )juvenalia at the drop of a hat. Have you ever heard " Miriam Meets " ( if you can comprehend Miriams ridiculous contorted irritable vowel syndrome ). What should be a harmless/friendly nostalgic chat invariably descends into an anti-Catholic hate-fest ; not surprising given that the guests usually come from central casting of rent-a-bigot ( preferably of the anti-Catholic variety ). And we have to subsidise this dross !.
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Post by annie on Aug 29, 2011 13:44:49 GMT
John Waters is like John Healy of old. Long may he prosper and annoy the comfortable complacent and comotose commetariat.
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Post by hibernicus on Aug 30, 2011 19:55:05 GMT
John Healy could be pretty complacent himself. The point about how Uncle Gaybo operated and how the road he started leads to BIG BROTHER world is very well put. IT goes very well with Theodore dalrymple's point about how unrestrained emotional incontinence (on the basis that repression per se is held to be bad) leads to the abolition of intimacy, which needs reticence. The trouble is that many evil things also rely on reticence as well. Where should we draw the line between one and the other?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 11:55:51 GMT
Absolutely agree. Your point about Uncle Gaybo's pseudo-confessional ( without the saving sacramental grace, of course ) is well made. This might explain a particular piece he had on totally denigrating/sneering at the concept of Catholic confession - he obviously felt his cheap grace was superior !. Likewise with our journalist/commentariat friends. Have you noticed how incestuous Irish journalism is. RTE have an assembly line of these vacuous liberal/feminist clones ready to spout their anti-Catholic ( that's the only time they get really animated )juvenalia at the drop of a hat. Have you ever heard " Miriam Meets " ( if you can comprehend Miriams ridiculous contorted irritable vowel syndrome ). What should be a harmless/friendly nostalgic chat invariably descends into an anti-Catholic hate-fest ; not surprising given that the guests usually come from central casting of rent-a-bigot ( preferably of the anti-Catholic variety ). And we have to subsidise this dross !. Miriam is on husband number 2, 7 kids now with nannies to help look after them, she's a stunner and smart. The lack of annullment puts her immediately at odds with the Church, the nannies make a career viable as do the looks and the brains, or appearance thereof. However there are a plethora of clever lookers dying to get in tv, so if she were to announce she wasn't anti-Church she'd risk her career. I find it interesting that she remarried though, many don't do that. Your point on the licence fee is sound. Why are we paying a licence fee when they have ads? Push up the price if it's not enough. I really wish they'd separate things because even if a person doesn't have Sky or cable or whatever and just wants to watch dvds we still have to pay because we have a tv. That's out of line. Mere possession of an item shouldn't force you to pay 160 a year. That sort of pushiness ticks me off. RTE 1 gets most of the fee whereas TG4 actually make the interesting programmes, they're the BBC4 of RTE. Madness.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 12:12:38 GMT
John Healy could be pretty complacent himself. The point about how Uncle Gaybo operated and how the road he started leads to BIG BROTHER world is very well put. IT goes very well with Theodore dalrymple's point about how unrestrained emotional incontinence (on the basis that repression per se is held to be bad) leads to the abolition of intimacy, which needs reticence. The trouble is that many evil things also rely on reticence as well. Where should we draw the line between one and the other? Love I suppose. Love is willing the best for the other person. You open your mouth when that isn't happening. I don't think that I could do as St. Maximilien Kolbe did, but that's why he's a saint and I am most definitely not. If saying something would make the situation worse then step back for the time being and pray for guidance to know if/when you can make a move. That takes patience, prudence and wisdom. Intimacy does require knowledge and prudence and wisdom too. It also requires real patience, a rare virtue. It involves acknowledging that what we see is not what we get and that what people state about themselves isn't complete. It surprises me that many don't seem to realise that we all have an inner life. I have noticed though that confessional tv, twitter, FB and the likes involves stating so much of what is on your mind that the people who do it think that is the substance of their inner life. Stating what is on the surface of your mind is not the same as what is in your heart and mind. It's the inner life equivalent of fast food. Too much fast food will give you greasy skin. Lord knows what its equivalent does to the soul. Reticence from fear of intimacy isn't of God, for the Holy Trinity is in communion. Reticence because you respect and honour yourself as made from God and share that with trustworthy people is prudent.
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