A new miracle in Lourdes Dec 17, 2009 20:19:12 GMT
Post by Hemingway on Dec 17, 2009 20:19:12 GMT
Is that really your response? Its so weak I really don’t feel the need to answer it.
All I’ll state (for the second time) is that the USA is 78.5% Christian and 23.9% are Catholic.
They are the facts. Just because it undermines your argument doesn’t mean you can ignore it. Your lack of honesty on this is incredible.
The violence is both perpetrated by the state and the people living in it…… 78.5% of whom consider themselves Christians. And its NOT MY DEFINITION OF RELIGION by the way. I haven’t defined religion at all.
Why on earth would you make such an obviously false and erroneous comment?
The people living in the states are 78.5% Christian. They drive the taxis, work in the factories, wash the dishes AND run the government. I simply stated that separation of church and state is in effect in the USA.
Also, once again you allude to me making a definition of an “Atheist State”. Where did I do this? Pleas quote!!!! I think you’ll find I DIDN’T. This makes you a fabricator of lies.
My bible facts recall is a bit rusty but I’m sure it says in there somewhere that telling lies is bad……
Atheism is a non-belief in theism or gods. To state it is a religion is incorrect.
The US supreme court DID NOT rule atheism a religion per se but actually only stated that atheism was equivalent to a religion for 1st amendment purposes.
All that means is people without religion have the same rights as people with religion.
You either didn’t understand this legal concept or you deliberately misrepresented the issue in your post.
This link may help clear the issue for you:
The religious live life by a defined set of rules giving praise to a deity.
Does atheism have anything approaching "clearly defined rules?" Not in the least. There is only one "rule," and that is the rule of the definition of "atheism" - not having any belief in any gods.
Other than that, atheists are free to do whatever they want and still be called atheists.
An atheist can do and believe absolutely anything beyond gods and still fit the definition. Quite the opposite of how "rules" are treated in a religion.
This is one area where a misunderstanding of what atheism is probably comes into play
The bible IS an Iron Age book. There is no disputing that. Are you suggesting it isn’t?
The point you make about the age of Atheism and the length its been around is irrelevant as it doesn’t make supernatural claims that are unverifiable in the same way that religion does.
Sir…. I put it to you that you are an outright LIAR.
Your prose style, Americanised spelling of words such as “center”, Traveler” and “Color”, your continued misuse of the quote function and the fact that you continually leave bizarre, erroneous and irrelevant responses to other posters would leave me in no doubt that you ARE the person who has been removed from this site FOUR times and the Atheist Ireland site once.
Plus your IP address is the same….. BUSTED….. as you Americans so like to say when one is caught in the act of wrong doing.
On the second point you made I would like to state that I DO KNOW the difference between a catholic and a protestant. Just because you say I do not doest make it so.
I however feel that all religions (including the aforementioned) are in error in their belief in a supreme being. That is all.
Because its not. This is a misunderstanding (one of many) on your part.
See the above answer number four……..
No they don’t. Quite the opposite in fact.
See the above answer number four……..
www.jmooneyham.com/the-case-against-god.html which defines certain crimes that an alleged God is guilty of and further defining those power which God is not capable of exercising. This atheist contradiction in defining it's own set of beliefs opposes most of it's own primary premise that God does not exist . God is guilty of crimes when he doesn't exist, God cannot exercise power when he does not exist? Where is the logic in that?
Stating that god does not exist is not a defined set of beliefs. It’s a rejection of theism. Its as simple as that. There is no contradiction.
Plus you are paraphrasing out of context here. It’s a flawed attempt on your part to try and elevate atheism to a religion.
It isn’t, never has been and never will be.
Religion is your belief system. You are free to believe what you want. Just do not go around stating that what you BELIEVE is actually FACT.
When you do this (claim something is a fact) you must provide testable evidence to reinforce your factual claim.
If you cannot provide this evidence but still claim it is fact, well then other have every right to dismiss your claim.