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Post by guillaume on Dec 21, 2008 14:23:34 GMT
Michael Moore's films, "movies" as they say in the USA, sounds great to me. Michael Moore sounds like a good catholic guy. An/or pretends to be. MM got an awful power in the States. I, know, surfing the Web, that he is not that catholic. But, as always he asked the right questions and get the "right"answers"............
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Dec 21, 2008 19:34:09 GMT
I don't know whether Moore is (or claims to be) a Catholic. He has been effective at times in criticising the Bush administration, though some aspects of his films have been shown to be dishonest.
However he seems to be identified with everything on the American left so I assume that covers abortion, "gay rights", objecting to any place for religious belief in public life etc.
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Post by guillaume on Dec 21, 2008 21:52:23 GMT
I don't know whether Moore is (or claims to be) a Catholic. He has been effective at times in criticising the Bush administration, though some aspects of his films have been shown to be dishonest. However he seems to be identified with everything on the American left so I assume that covers abortion, "gay rights", objecting to any place for religious belief in public life etc. rir Sounds, but it seems mm (for Michael Moore), is asking the right questions regarding the troubles in America. However,this concerns America. not us. We have enough with Brian Cowen or Biffo to deal with..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hibernicus on Dec 24, 2008 17:14:57 GMT
Michael Moore was born a Catholic and claims to be one when it suits his "social justice" agenda, but when it comes to issues like abortion he is with the left-liberal party line all the way. Really he's the left's version of Rush Limbaugh; a demagouge preaching to the converted.
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Post by Noelfitz on Dec 26, 2008 7:14:49 GMT
It seems clear to me that Michael Moore is a Catholic. Please see below. By the way, some time ago I criticized a contributor here. I think I was wrong in my criticism. Sorry. ******************************************************************************* Actually Moore, a practicing Catholic, loved "Passion" and saw it many times and Gibson, who opposed the invasion of Iraq despite his conservative reputation, greatly enjoyed "Fahrenheit." www.imdb.com/name/nm0601619/bio. After eighth grade Moore enrolled in a Catholic seminary. “He admired the Berrigan brothers [radical anti-Vietnam War Catholic priests Daniel Berrigan and Philip Berrigan] and thought that the priesthood was the way to effect social change,” wrote The New Yorker’s Larissa MacFarquhar in February 2004. ” http://www.discoverthenetworks.org./individualProfile.asp?indid=899 Moore has described his parents as "Irish Catholic Democrats, basic liberal good people." Moore was brought up Roman Catholic and attended St. John's Elementary School for primary school. He then attended Davison High School, where he was active in both drama and debate,[ graduating in 1972. At the age of 18, he was elected to the Davison school board. … Moore describes himself as a Catholic,but he openly disagrees with church teaching on subjects such as abortion, and gay marriage. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micheal_Moore.
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Post by hibernicus on Dec 26, 2008 17:34:32 GMT
The point about Gibson is interesting - there is actually a significant degree of overlap between the far left and far-right palaeoconservatives on foreign policy. Palaeocons are often isolationists. I suspect Guillaume's admiration for Michael Moore reflects this overlap. Care to clarify, Guillaume? (I'm just asking.) BTW I supported the invasion of Iraq, though I admit the Americans have made a disatrous mess of it. I would be prepared to discuss this with anyone who wants to debate it further, especially as I notice this is one area where some of our Catholic and atheist contributors are in agreement.
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Post by hibernicus on Oct 4, 2011 14:22:36 GMT
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Post by losleandros on Oct 4, 2011 14:44:49 GMT
Re. Michael Moore & the American liberal/left in general - Noam Chomsky, Hilary Clinton, etc.,. I read a very good expose a few years ago - " Do As I Say, Not As I Do : Profiles in Liberal Hypocricy ", by Peter Schweizer. Basically he illustrated how Michael Moore has substantial shareholdings in US military companies , & also how Chomsky has many Government contracts - totally against their declared/public personas. Worth a read.
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Post by bernard on Oct 5, 2011 9:42:57 GMT
I defended Michael Moore to no end until he started declaring his Catholicism just in time to get Obama's health care reform bill to go through. I don't think it was a coincidence either. Moore also a launched a major campaign against Michigan democrat congressman Bart Stupach who was going to stop the health bill dead in its tracks. Michael Moore fought hard to stop the war in Iraq and for that he deserves credit but and he crossed the line when he he tried to act as if supporting abortion was acceptable for Catholics. here are some excerpts from his attack on Stupach. www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/my-congressman-bart-stupa_b_506649.htmlYet, here we are, just days before a weak, simple-minded, but now ultimately necessary health care bill has a chance of making it through Congress -- and Bart Stupak is threatening to derail it because he wants to make sure that no woman who buys her own insurance with her own money is able to have a medically-insured abortion. We're not talkin' about federally-funded abortions -- those were stupidly outlawed long ago. Bart Stupak doesn't like that the Democrats' bill doesn't prohibit private insurance programs, set up for those whose employers don't provide it, from providing abortion coverage if they get any federal funding -- even to an individual woman paying without any government help. That's it.
A group representing most of America's 59,000 Catholic nuns has written to Congress and said that Obama's health care plan should be passed. Stupak, instead, has chosen to diss the nuns. Last night he went on TV and dug his heels in -- he said he intended to stop this health care bill and he didn't care what anyone had to say....What is "life"? An egg is life, a sperm is life. Those sperm aren't running on a battery pack. They are living creatures, as is a fertilized egg. But they're not "human beings." A human being is something that can exist outside the womb of a mother. If you think a fertilized egg is a human being, then I respectfully ask you to go down to the DMV today and have them change your birthday on your driver's license to 9 months older than what you've been telling everybody.
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Post by brid on Oct 5, 2011 17:07:27 GMT
Mr Moore is a film maker. I think that is his first and foremost qualification. Everything else is second as far as I can see.
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Post by hibernicus on Oct 7, 2011 23:25:09 GMT
Leni Riefenstahl was a film maker too, and a very skilled one. The question is, what sort of film maker?
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Post by losleandros on Oct 9, 2011 10:55:11 GMT
Exactly hibernicus. In addition to being not exactly easy on the eye ( I'm quoting Mrs. Los Leandros , here - I would'nt be so forceful ), Mr. Moore confounds the felony by being a propagandist for the most extreme/intolerant liberal/feminist wing of the Democratic Party - in not very subtle style either.
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