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Post by Young Ireland on Feb 8, 2018 14:45:23 GMT
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Feb 10, 2018 11:56:26 GMT
Post by Young Ireland on Feb 10, 2018 11:56:26 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Feb 10, 2018 16:02:36 GMT
This is insane. It is one thing to do a diplomatic deal with an unsavoury regime where it is felt the greater good requires it and it's the best that can be obtained. (I'm not defending that deal BTW - it seems tome to be a sellout of the faithful a la Mindszenty -just taking the most charitable view of its rationale). It's quite another thing to single out a persecuting dictatorship for praise. Part of the reason, I suspect, is a Latin American chip on the shoulder about the US and consequent willingness to believe the best of its main rival (of course Latin Americans have valid reasons to dislike the US, just as Irish Republicans who sympathised with the Nazis had legitimate reason to dislike the British - that does not mean they were not guilty of criminal stupidity). BTW I don't like the sort of Americolatry some US Catholics go in for, but it is a good deal more reasonable than Sinolatry. Steven Mosher, who did much to expose the horrors of the Chinese compulsory abortion policy, analyses this eructation and suggests we shouldn't underestimate the effects of flattery of a "distinguished visitor" by his government minders. George Bernard Shaw visiting the USSR during a massive famine, denying there was a famine because he didn't see it, and jeering that if there was a famine the starving must have been padded with cotton wool to conceal them, comes to mind. stream.org/papal-crony-praises-communist-china-denounces-america/
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Post by Young Ireland on Feb 10, 2018 17:06:33 GMT
This is insane. It is one thing to do a diplomatic deal with an unsavoury regime where it is felt the greater good requires it and it's the best that can be obtained. (I'm not defending that deal BTW - it seems tome to be a sellout of the faithful a la Mindszenty -just taking the most charitable view of its rationale). It's quite another thing to single out a persecuting dictatorship for praise. Part of the reason, I suspect, is a Latin American chip on the shoulder about the US and consequent willingness to believe the best of its main rival (of course Latin Americans have valid reasons to dislike the US, just as Irish Republicans who sympathised with the Nazis had legitimate reason to dislike the British - that does not mean they were not guilty of criminal stupidity). BTW I don't like the sort of Americolatry some US Catholics go in for, but it is a good deal more reasonable than Sinolatry. Steven Mosher, who did much to expose the horrors of the Chinese compulsory abortion policy, analyses this eructation and suggests we shouldn't underestimate the effects of flattery of a "distinguished visitor" by his government minders. George Bernard Shaw visiting the USSR during a massive famine, denying there was a famine because he didn't see it, and jeering that if there was a famine the starving must have been padded with cotton wool to conceal them, comes to mind. stream.org/papal-crony-praises-communist-china-denounces-america/ It's even more cringeworthy than that, he is praising a regime that is persecuting his own Church (which doesn't make persecution of other churches OK). It's almost like a Stalinist show-trial, where the persecuted praise their persecutors before being killed off by said persecutors. Of course, the persecuted acted under duress, which does not appear to be the case here.
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Post by Young Ireland on Mar 2, 2018 20:52:29 GMT
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Jul 6, 2021 22:24:35 GMT
Post by Young Ireland on Jul 6, 2021 22:24:35 GMT
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China
Jul 13, 2021 20:28:36 GMT
Post by hibernicus on Jul 13, 2021 20:28:36 GMT
Bonnie and Clyde have also been falling over themselves to praise Putin, Lukashenko and Assad. When they visited the Middle East recently Clare Daly actually was videoed wearing Islamic dress when meeting the head of an Islamic militia - this from someone who never ceases to play the feminism card when attacking Catholicism. What is more, their antics are taken up by Russia Today and similar propaganda outlets as evidence in support of the policies of Putin and Co. The most straightforward assumption seems to be that if the US is against a regime they are for it. Politics.ie has a thread on their activities. politics.ie/threads/are-clare-daly-and-mick-wallace-spreading-fake-news-about-syria.282255/
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China
Oct 11, 2021 10:58:20 GMT
Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Oct 11, 2021 10:58:20 GMT
Well, it is clear that Mick Wallace is living in a fantasy world.
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