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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 28, 2008 12:01:02 GMT
The Cork and Ross diocese has a Catholic population of approxiately 220,000 in 68 parishes served by 287 priests, including religious. It occupies Cork City and considerable parts of Co Cork. Its official website is: www.corkandross.org/. Bishop Michael Murphy served as Bishop of Cork and Ross from 1980 to 1996 and was succeed by Bishop John Buckley in 1997. Bishop Buckley had been Auxilliary Bishop of Cork and Ross since 1984, just as Bishop Murphy became Coadjutor Bishop in 1976. The Society of St Pius X own a former Anglican church in Sunday's Well which they use as their chapel for Sunday Mass. Provision of holy day Masses is erratic. Petitions for an indult Mass began in Bishop Murphy's time. It is alleged that Bishop Murphy said that he would allow the traditional Mass 'over my dead body'. This was commented upon in The Brandsma Review at the time ( www.brandsmareview.net, but the relevant article is not online). It is further alleged that the then Archbishop of Dublin, Desmond Connell, quipped 'that can be arranged', but there is no citation for this. The quotation attributed to Mgr Murphy has since been attributed to Mgr Magee in Cloyne, so it may be an urban legend. But Mgr Murphy made no provision for the traditional Mass in the Cork and Ross diocese. An elderly retired missionary, Fr Thomas Higgins SMA began to celebrate the extraodinary form Mass in the Cork suburb of Wilton in the mid 1990s at an early morning hour. This had some following. Fr Higgins continued this until ill health prevented him from doing so. He died in 2005. Though no action immediately followed Bishop Buckley's succession as bishop, the matter was still being progressed. The breakthrough occured in the Ross end of the diocese in 2002 when Mass was offered at a Mass Rock on the Sheepshead Penninsula. The following year, the LMSI AGM was held in Cork City and proceeded by Mass in Ss Peter's and Paul's Church. There were a number of Masses in the same church over the next few years and one in St Finbar's (South Parish). A petition was submitted to Bishop Buckley. In 2005, the breakthrough came in Cork when a Mass was established on the first Saturday of the month in Ss Peter's and Paul's. That has continued ever since.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jun 23, 2008 15:01:53 GMT
From July 20, the Traditional Latin Mass will take place on the 3rd Sunday of the month in Ss Peter's and Paul's, Paul St, Cork at 12 noon. The First Saturday Mass in the same venue will continue at 10 am on the First Saturday as per usual.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jul 9, 2008 11:40:16 GMT
Someone sent me this:
Communication concerning Monthly Sunday Latin Mass in Cork
It is with great joy that the L.M.S.I. announces the inauguration of a Monthly Sunday Mass in the Extraordinary Rite in Cork, commencing on Sunday 20th July and subsequently on the Third Sunday of each month.
The Mass will take place at St. Peter & Paul’s Church in Cork city centre and the time will be 12.00 noon. The Celebrant for the first Mass will be Rev. Father Seraphin Kennedy, O.F.M. The Mass is part of the Parish Sunday Mass schedule of St. Peter & Paul’s Parish, with the Latin Mass Society assisting. Our Society welcomes the opportunity of working with the Parish in organizing and promoting the event, which is in addition to a monthly First Saturday Latin Mass which has been held at the church since December 2005.
The Sunday Mass provides a powerful opportunity for the introduction of the Extraordinary Rite to the general schedule of Masses in the city, in conformity with developments made possible under the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificium. In addition to the congregation presently attending the First Saturday Mass, it is to hoped that the Sunday Mass will have an increased number present, including those for whom attending on a weekday presented difficulties due to work or other obligations. As St. Peter & Paul’s has an existing Sunday Mass at 12.00 noon with an established congregation, it is further hoped that many will opt to continue their attendance on the day of the Latin Mass.
Some of our Latin Mass servers have recently participated in a training course held under the auspices of Fr. Gabriel Burke. The Musical Director at St. Peter & Paul’s, Mr. Pat Buckley, is taking a personal interest in the musical accompaniment for the Latin Mass and is organizing both suitable material and a weekly pre Mass practice for our choir. At the First Saturday Mass on 5th July the Choir gave an inspiring rendition of Gregorian Chant as an entrance to the Mass, which was celebrated by Fr. John L.O’Sullivan, C.S.S.P., C.C.
The Latin Mass Society requests the greatest possible attendance from its members and supporters at the Sunday Masses which can only represent a significant step forward in the promotion of the Extraordinary Rite, in the fullest conformity with the Church’s Liturgical Discipline.
Maurice O’Brien Diocesan Convener, L.M.S.I.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Aug 17, 2008 21:15:14 GMT
Being in Cork for the weekend, I was fortunate enough to be able to attend Mass in the EF in St Peter and Paul's, this being the third Sunday of the month. It was a delight to see the numerous congregation, with some young couples and young families and the majority of those present being either just old enough to remember when the Tridentine Rite was the norm, like me, or younger. The celebrant, Monsignor Cornelius O'Brien, offered Mass with dignity and elegance and preached an exceptionally fine homily. The choir and organist were splendid. It was a most encouraging example of the Motu Proprio in action. All credit to Bishop Buckley for his generous response.
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Post by royalosiodhachain on Aug 20, 2008 18:06:04 GMT
Being in Cork for the weekend, I was fortunate enough to be able to attend Mass in the EF in St Peter and Paul's, this being the third Sunday of the month. It was a delight to see the numerous congregation, with some young couples and young families and the majority of those present being either just old enough to remember when the Tridentine Rite was the norm, like me, or younger. The celebrant, Monsignor Cornelius O'Brien, offered Mass with dignity and elegance and preached an exceptionally fine homily. The choir and organist were splendid. It was a most encouraging example of the Motu Proprio in action. All credit to Bishop Buckley for his generous response. Michael, My great grandfather Robert O'Siodhachain was a resident of Cork before he left for American. Will you tell me what Cork looks like, what to see, what is the Catholic Church there like. I read that from 1891-1915 Bishop Richard A. Sheehan was Bishop of Cork. Sheehan is the Anglican degenerative of O'Siodhachain. Cork must be like a resort or vacation spot if you went all the way down there for the weekend. All of the Catholic Church in my County are very receptive to suggestions for change in fact many of them have suggestion box at the door coming and going and are picked up weekly then discussed for action by the Parish Council. I have not met a Priest yet who was not open to suggestion if approached from a Spirit of kindness. * Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum on the "Roman liturgy prior to the reform of 1970" (July 7, 2007) [Hungarian, Latin] * Motu Proprio with which Pope Benedict XVI reinstates the traditional norms for the majority required to elect the Supreme Pontiff (June 11, 2007) Motu Proprio is welcomed by all Priests as well as the parishoners here in my home in American which I myself carry the inheritance of the County of Cork, Ireland
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Aug 25, 2008 14:29:24 GMT
Being in Cork for the weekend, I was fortunate enough to be able to attend Mass in the EF in St Peter and Paul's, this being the third Sunday of the month. It was a delight to see the numerous congregation, with some young couples and young families and the majority of those present being either just old enough to remember when the Tridentine Rite was the norm, like me, or younger. The celebrant, Monsignor Cornelius O'Brien, offered Mass with dignity and elegance and preached an exceptionally fine homily. The choir and organist were splendid. It was a most encouraging example of the Motu Proprio in action. All credit to Bishop Buckley for his generous response. Good to hear this, but there would be no Mass in Cork without the tremendous patience of the late Des Roche and Maurice O'Brien and their collaborators. And the arrangement in Cork goes back to the days of the earlier Motu Proprio, Ecclesia Dei Adflicta.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Sept 29, 2008 10:32:44 GMT
Steve, your point is...?
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Oct 29, 2008 12:27:46 GMT
I can't tell what it is either. We don't have to remind bishops about what is in the Motu Proprio.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Dec 5, 2008 11:21:06 GMT
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Dec 17, 2008 16:07:32 GMT
The next priest's training course in the traditional Mass organised by the LMSI will take place in the Dominican Retreat House in Montenotte in Cork on 4-5 February (Wednesday and Thursday). It will be directed by Father John Emerson: Contact: Maurice O'Brien mauriceandjaneobrien@gmail.com or Vicky Nestor vickynestor@gmail.com
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Post by hibernicus on Dec 24, 2008 17:19:15 GMT
I was at the Third Sunday Mass in St. Peter and Paul's at 12. About 120 present, though it's difficult to be sure how many are regulars and how many are "passing traffic". (St. Peter and Paul's is just off the main shopping street in Cork.) ONe oddity - the text of the Lessons was given out in leaflets at the beginning, and after reading them in Latin the priest announced he wouldn't read them again in English as we already had the text. This was a bit awkward if your Latin is weak and you hadn't read the leaflet in advance. St. Peter and Paul's is a beautiful ornate gothic church - I was baptised there. My old friend Cornelius O'Leary was very fond of it and I always say a prayer for him when I go there.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jan 16, 2009 14:24:53 GMT
I hear 120 is the usual number in Cork on the third Sunday.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Feb 13, 2009 13:47:48 GMT
Cork really deserves to have a regular daily & Sunday mass like St. Kevin's Dublin. Come on Corkonians! I think this was supposed to be here.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Feb 16, 2009 16:12:06 GMT
Cork really deserves to have a regular daily & Sunday mass like St. Kevin's Dublin. Come on Corkonians! I think this was supposed to be here. Believe me Maurice O'Brien is doing all he can - what Cork needs is a priest or two who are available
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Post by eircomnet on Feb 19, 2009 10:18:03 GMT
I meant no reflection on Maurice O Brien who no doubt is doing Trojan work. I was thinking more of something from the top, like in the case of Bishop Martin instituting the chaplaincy in Dublin.
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