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Post by hibernicus on Aug 2, 2010 9:59:42 GMT
About 35 people at the Mass in St. Paul's yesterday, though there was some traffic disruption caused by the West Belfast festival. The Mass was said more audibly than on previous occasions.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Aug 16, 2010 13:40:59 GMT
This seems a good comparison with Ss Peter's & Paul's in Cork.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Aug 19, 2010 11:24:28 GMT
The 2.30 pm time is not good in St Paul's and also there is a need to move towards having the Mass every week. Right now this is not going to happen as Father Graham is on his own in Belfast.
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 6, 2010 9:23:45 GMT
There was a good turn-out at St Paul's yesterday - about 60. It was the month's mind for a veteran LMSI member so some may have been his relatives - but I also noticed a couple of regulars were missing.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Oct 14, 2010 15:07:53 GMT
This sounds encouraging - and I hear there is interest from Down & Connor in the training course in Ards.
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 8, 2010 11:14:21 GMT
33 At th Mass in St Paul's yesterday. It started a little bit late as a wedding had taken place just beforehand and the congregation were slow in moving out. At this church the old (and specific to Ireland) custom of saying the DE PROFUNDIS [in English] at the end of the Mass for those who died without the sacraments during Penal Days has now been revived - though they say it before the Leonine Prayers when I think it should be said afterwards. Have any of the other indult congregations revived this use of the DE PROFUNDIS? [Harrington Street has not, and I've never heard it done in Cork.] Do the Irish SSPX congregations have it?
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Post by ulick on Nov 11, 2010 13:44:37 GMT
33 At th Mass in St Paul's yesterday. It started a little bit late as a wedding had taken place just beforehand and the congregation were slow in moving out. I'm pretty sure they were attending Baptisms before the Mass, they just looked as though they were dressed for a wedding. It the same every month, by the time they've all posed for photos with the priest, had a good chat while the children run up and down the aisles and around the altar, 2.30pm is long past.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Nov 11, 2010 15:53:22 GMT
I noticed that - that the Mass in St Paul's follows the parish baptism. While it is gratifying to see baptisms, the families don't always respect the Church building they are in.
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Post by hibernicus on Dec 7, 2010 11:14:18 GMT
There were about 25 in St Paul's on Sunday 5th - I imagine this was due to the weather; Belfast pavements are covered with thick sheets of black ice and havebeen for over a week.
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Post by hibernicus on Apr 4, 2011 9:41:20 GMT
My first visit to the monthly TLM in St Paul's this year - about 32 present. The celebrant was a Polish priest. The mass was said at one of the side altars (to my discomfort as I had gone to the centre aisle, and the pillars obscured my vision). I am not sure if this is specifically Lenten - more likely it is because the side altars still have the traditional placement against the east wall, whereas the central altar has been removed and replaced with a table structure. There is some discussion about moving the Mass to an earlier time, say 8.30 - discussion about whehter this was too early or whether it would allow people to fit it into their day better. (I usually attend OF MAss in my parish church before going to St Paul's - partly in case any unexpected delay causes me to miss St Paul's, as it would then be difficult to get to another Mass.) The ICKSP are now saying occasional Masses in Belfast - there will be one next Sunday. Not sure of the time but the LMSI website should have it.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jun 15, 2011 19:53:43 GMT
Numbers are not historically good in St Paul's - time might be a factor.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 4, 2013 7:38:19 GMT
I recommend that you ring in advance as there have been some months when the Belfast 1st Saturday Mass has not taken place.
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Post by rogerbuck on Sept 6, 2013 9:33:57 GMT
My first visit to the monthly TLM in St Paul's this year - about 32 present. The celebrant was a Polish priest. The mass was said at one of the side altars (to my discomfort as I had gone to the centre aisle, and the pillars obscured my vision). Having visited several TLMs in Ireland since returning to Ireland, this side altar Mass is really BOTHERING me. Not for myself! - I just avoid the central aisle. But all kinds of people don't. I see them in the central aisle, blocked and remote ... This is not good for promoting the TLM. When I was at Knock, I felt like begging the organisers: Please build some kind of portable platform - it could be of several pieces which can be assembled in the church - and place it in front of the main altar. I fear sounding like a crank. But I read Hibernicus's comment with sheer relief. I am sure we are not alone. The TLM does not seem to be doing well at all in Ireland compared to Britain or France, where I've lived in recent years. I think that, at least at Knock, the perhaps arduous task of constructing a platform, would mean that all kinds of newcomers - pilgrims at Knock - would discover the full beauty of this Mass. Whether I sound like a crank or not, I think it could be very important at Knock, especially ... paying off in the long term as many more people discover the TLM. I think it also important that the Latin of the priests and servers is easily heard. Part of the challenge with restoring the Latin Mass is how remote it can feel to newcomers and both low tones and these side altar Masses are not helping.
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 6, 2013 18:20:39 GMT
I think Roger has a point - I have had the same problem a couple of times at the annual St Oliver Plunkett mass in Drogheda, which is celebrated at a side altar.
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 11, 2014 20:34:44 GMT
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