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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 5, 2022 15:01:00 GMT
Traditional Latin Mass in Ireland with Ecclesiastical Authorisation DailyArchdiocese of Dublin: St Kevin's Church, Harrington St, Dublin 8 D08 V8W5. Sundays: 0900 and 1030; Monday-Friday 0800; and Saturday 0900. Website: www.latinmassdublin.ie/Diocese of Down & Connor: Immaculate Heart of Mary Church, 577 Antrim Road, Fortwilliam, Belfast BT15 3BU. Sundays: 0800, 1100 and 1800; Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday: 1800; Thursday: 0800; and Saturday: 1100. Website: institute-christ-king.ie/belfast/Diocese of Limerick: Sacred Heart Church, 16 The Crescent, Limerick V94 HK29. Sundays: 0800, 1030 and 1800; Monday-Wednesday: 0800 and 1800; Thursday: 0800; Friday: 1800; and Saturday: 1030. Website: institute-christ-king.ie/limerick/Diocese of Waterford & Lismore: St John's Church, Parnell St, Waterford X91 FH04. Sundays: 1330; Monday: 1300; Tuesday, Thursday and Friday: 1830; Wednesday: 1730; and Saturday: 1100. Website: fssp.ie/mass-times/ (Please check homepage for updates). Diocese of Meath: Benedictine Monks of Perpetual Adoration, Silverstream Priory, Stamullen, Co Meath K32 T189. Sundays and Great feasts: 0945; and other days: 0900. Website: www.cenacleosb.org/about-1 WeeklyDiocese of Cork & Ross: Ss Peter's & Paul's Church, 35 Paul St., Cork T12 K8V0 Sundays: 1200. Website: saintspeterandpaulscork.org/parish/Diocese of Galway, Kilmacduagh &Kilfenora: St Mary's College, St Mary's Road, Galway H91 H7F8 Sundays: 1500. institute-christ-king.ie/galway/Diocese of Dromore: St Mary's Church, Chapel Lane, Newry, Co Down BT34 2DS. Sundays: 0900. Website: www.newrycathedralparish.org/ Diocese of Ferns: St Peter's College, Summerhill Road, Wexford Y35 XFN8. Sundays: 1000. Website: fssp.ie/mass-times/ Diocese of Ossory: St Patrick's Church, College Road, Kilkenny R95 VX96. Sundays: 1700. Website: www.stpatricksparishkilkenny.com/ Diocese of Raphoe: St Patrick's Church, Drumkeen, Co Donegal F93 FW64. Sundays: 1500 (check in advance). Website: parishofraphoe.com/Diocese of Meath: Church of the Nativity of Our Lady, Johnstown, Navan, Co Meath. Sundays & Holydays: 1300; First Fridays: 1100. Website: jwparish.com/ MonthlyArchdiocese of Tuam: St John the Baptist Church (old parish church), Knock, Co Mayo F12 W5P8. 2nd Sunday of the month: 1730. Annual pilgrimage: 1st Saturday in September. Website: www.knockshrine.ie/Diocese of Elphin: Saint Anne's Church, Gortlustia, Scramoge, Co. Roscommon F42 DX40. 3rd Sunday of the month: 1700. E-mail: tarmonbarryparish@gmail.comDiocese of Kerry: Church of the Immaculate Conception, Rathass, Tralee, Co Kerry V92 DX62. Last Sunday of the month: 1300. E-mail: latinmasstralee@gmail.com
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 7, 2022 14:09:33 GMT
There is an additional Mass in Sligo not listed here (also the Elphin diocese), it's on the last Sunday of the month but I am not sure what church it's in or at what time, so I am seeking further information.
Derry is the largest area of population without a Sunday Mass. The future of the Mass in Derry is under deliberation. I will look for confirmation on this shortly.
Though I believe the Mass in the Dominican rite at 8 am in St Mary's, Pope's Quay in Cork is continuing for the moment, it is to be discontinued. This makes Cork the biggest loser as the daily Mass in Ss Peter's and Paul's is cut to be only on Sundays.
In Dublin, celebration of the Mass was restricted to St Kevin's, Harrington St. Any other Mass celebrated in a church other than this or by a priest other than the Harrington St clergy will take place on a case by case basis. This means Masses in the University Church, Berkeley Road and anywhere in Co Wicklow are cancelled.
Even without Traditionis Custodes, there was always going to be a post Covid 19 analysis of the Mass situation. Two celebrants have died in the past few years - Father Hugh Sweeney in Glenswilley, Co Donegal and Father John O'Rourke in Gortnahoe, Co Tipperary. Mass in the Raphoe diocese continues every Sunday in Drumkeen, Co Donegal. There is no replacement in the Cashel Archdiocese.
The Armagh archdiocese has seen the Mass in Dungannon suspended as the celebrant is doing further study. The status of Mass in Mellifont Abbey is unknown, but Father William OCSO was very old. As of yet, there is no public Mass in the Adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus in Ardee.
Belfast and Limerick benefit from the presence of the Institute of Christ the King as Waterford and Wexford does from the FSSP, while there are traditional Benedictines in Meath. Masses in Newry and Kilkenny are continuing, though Father O'Reilly is getting old in Newry and there is no apparent succession plan in place. There are monthly Masses in Knock, Tralee and Scramogue, Co Roscommon.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 21, 2022 8:32:39 GMT
Traditional Latin Mass in Ireland with Ecclesiastical AuthorisationDailyArchdiocese of Dublin: St Kevin's Church, Harrington St, Dublin 8 D08 V8W5. Sundays: 0900 and 1030; Monday-Friday 0800; and Saturday 0900. Website: www.latinmassdublin.ie/Diocese of Down & Connor: Immaculate Heart of Mary Church, 577 Antrim Road, Fortwilliam, Belfast BT15 3BU. Sundays: 0800, 1100 and 1800; Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday: 1800; Thursday: 0800; and Saturday: 1100. Website: institute-christ-king.ie/belfast/Diocese of Limerick: Sacred Heart Church, 16 The Crescent, Limerick V94 HK29. Sundays: 0800, 1030 and 1800; Monday-Wednesday: 0800 and 1800; Thursday: 0800; Friday: 1800; and Saturday: 1030. Website: institute-christ-king.ie/limerick/Diocese of Waterford & Lismore: St John's Church, Parnell St, Waterford X91 FH04. Sundays: 1330; Monday: 1300; Tuesday, Thursday and Friday: 1830; Wednesday: 1730; and Saturday: 1100. Website: fssp.ie/mass-times/ (Please check homepage for updates). Diocese of Meath: Benedictine Monks of Perpetual Adoration, Silverstream Priory, Stamullen, Co Meath K32 T189. Sundays and Great feasts: 0945; and other days: 0900. Website: www.cenacleosb.org/about-1 WeeklyDiocese of Cork & Ross: Ss Peter's & Paul's Church, 35 Paul St., Cork T12 K8V0 Sundays: 1200. Website: saintspeterandpaulscork.org/parish/Diocese of Galway, Kilmacduagh & Kilfenora: St Mary's College, St Mary's Road, Galway H91 H7F8 Sundays: 1500. institute-christ-king.ie/galway/Diocese of Dromore: St Mary's Church, Chapel Lane, Newry, Co Down BT34 2DS. Sundays: 0900. Website: www.newrycathedralparish.org/ Diocese of Ferns: St Peter's College, Summerhill Road, Wexford Y35 XFN8. Sundays: 1000. Website: fssp.ie/mass-times/ Diocese of Ossory: St Patrick's Church, College Road, Kilkenny R95 VX96. Sundays: 1700. Website: www.stpatricksparishkilkenny.com/ Diocese of Raphoe: St Patrick's Church, Drumkeen, Co Donegal F93 FW64. Sundays: 1500 (check in advance). Website: parishofraphoe.com/Diocese of Meath: Church of the Nativity of Our Lady, Johnstown, Navan, Co Meath. Sundays & Holydays: 1300; First Fridays: 1100. Website: jwparish.com/ MonthlyArchdiocese of Tuam: St John the Baptist Church (old parish church), Knock, Co Mayo F12 W5P8. 2nd Sunday of the month: 1730. Annual pilgrimage: 1st Saturday in September. Website: www.knockshrine.ie/Diocese of Elphin: Saint Anne's Church, Gortlustia, Scramoge, Co. Roscommon F42 DX40. 3rd Sunday of the month: 1700. E-mail: tarmonbarryparish@gmail.com Diocese of Kerry: Church of the Immaculate Conception, Rathass, Tralee, Co Kerry V92 DX62. Last Sunday of the month: 1300. E-mail: latinmasstralee@gmail.com Diocese of Elphin: St John's Church, Carraroe, Co Sligo F91 WA03. Last Sunday of the month: Time TBC. Website: www.carraroechurchsligo.com/
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Oct 5, 2022 13:20:54 GMT
Any comment needs to be backed up, but it looks like the Mass is severely curtailed in Cork, confined to a single church in Dublin and under perpetual consideration in Derry. Any more info?
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Post by maguidhir on Aug 4, 2023 2:43:33 GMT
Traditional Latin Mass in Ireland with Ecclesiastical AuthorisationDailyArchdiocese of Dublin: St Kevin's Church, Harrington St, Dublin 8 D08 V8W5. Sundays: 0900 and 1030; Monday-Friday 0800; and Saturday 0900. Website: www.latinmassdublin.ie/Diocese of Down & Connor: Immaculate Heart of Mary Church, 577 Antrim Road, Fortwilliam, Belfast BT15 3BU. Sundays: 0800, 1100 and 1800; Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday: 1800; Thursday: 0800; and Saturday: 1100. Website: institute-christ-king.ie/belfast/Diocese of Limerick: Sacred Heart Church, 16 The Crescent, Limerick V94 HK29. Sundays: 0800, 1030 and 1800; Monday-Wednesday: 0800 and 1800; Thursday: 0800; Friday: 1800; and Saturday: 1030. Website: institute-christ-king.ie/limerick/Diocese of Waterford & Lismore: St John's Church, Parnell St, Waterford X91 FH04. Sundays: 1330; Monday: 1300; Tuesday, Thursday and Friday: 1830; Wednesday: 1730; and Saturday: 1100. Website: fssp.ie/mass-times/ (Please check homepage for updates). Diocese of Meath: Benedictine Monks of Perpetual Adoration, Silverstream Priory, Stamullen, Co Meath K32 T189. Sundays and Great feasts: 0945; and other days: 0900. Website: www.cenacleosb.org/about-1 WeeklyDiocese of Cork & Ross: Ss Peter's & Paul's Church, 35 Paul St., Cork T12 K8V0 Sundays: 1200. Website: saintspeterandpaulscork.org/parish/Diocese of Galway, Kilmacduagh & Kilfenora: St Mary's College, St Mary's Road, Galway H91 H7F8 Sundays: 1500. institute-christ-king.ie/galway/Diocese of Dromore: St Mary's Church, Chapel Lane, Newry, Co Down BT34 2DS. Sundays: 0900. Website: www.newrycathedralparish.org/ Diocese of Ferns: St Peter's College, Summerhill Road, Wexford Y35 XFN8. Sundays: 1000. Website: fssp.ie/mass-times/ Diocese of Ossory: St Patrick's Church, College Road, Kilkenny R95 VX96. Sundays: 1700. Website: www.stpatricksparishkilkenny.com/ Diocese of Raphoe: St Patrick's Church, Drumkeen, Co Donegal F93 FW64. Sundays: 1500 (check in advance). Website: parishofraphoe.com/Diocese of Meath: Church of the Nativity of Our Lady, Johnstown, Navan, Co Meath. Sundays & Holydays: 1300; First Fridays: 1100. Website: jwparish.com/ MonthlyArchdiocese of Tuam: St John the Baptist Church (old parish church), Knock, Co Mayo F12 W5P8. 2nd Sunday of the month: 1730. Annual pilgrimage: 1st Saturday in September. Website: www.knockshrine.ie/Diocese of Elphin: Saint Anne's Church, Gortlustia, Scramoge, Co. Roscommon F42 DX40. 3rd Sunday of the month: 1700. E-mail: tarmonbarryparish@gmail.com Diocese of Kerry: Church of the Immaculate Conception, Rathass, Tralee, Co Kerry V92 DX62. Last Sunday of the month: 1300. E-mail: latinmasstralee@gmail.com Diocese of Elphin: St John's Church, Carraroe, Co Sligo F91 WA03. Last Sunday of the month: Time TBC. Website: www.carraroechurchsligo.com/ Would you happen to know if the Latin Mass has continued at St John the Baptist Church, Knock, into 2023? I saw a notice on the website about Masses continuing throughout 2022, but I have yet to see anything up to date regarding 2023 (and beyond). Do you know whether the new Archbishop of Tuam is as accommodating as was Archbishop Michael Neary? Cheers.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Aug 4, 2023 13:58:31 GMT
Mass is continuing in Knock, but in the Blessed Sacrament Chapel on the second Sunday of the month at 1730.
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Post by maguidhir on Aug 5, 2023 2:32:52 GMT
Thanks, Beinidict. Do you know why it was moved to the Blessed Sacrament Chapel? Is it perhaps because of Traditionis Custodes and the regulations on having a TLM in regular parish churches (as opposed to chapels)? St. John the Baptist's looks like a beautiful parish church, especially the high altar, so that's unfortunate. I read on the Knock Shrine website (in a post from 2022) that the TLM, then at St John the Baptist's, had "a stable congregation" of 110-120 people, which is very good. I can't imagine the chapel fitting that many people.
Would anyone happen to know about the ICKSP presence in Galway? They appear to have a weekly Sunday Mass at a college chapel (shared with an Eastern Orthodox Church, by the looks of it). They don't have very much information on their website. Is there a solid community there? more of an outpost? fledgling but growing?
I ask about these communities, as my wife and I are looking at possibly moving (back) to Ireland with our children and are curious about what kind of communities are out there. We attended many 'dead parishes' in Ireland, and while I don't think these parishes should be forsaken, it's a different matter when there are children to be raised in the Faith -- and ideally in a faithful, intentional community (the occasional crazies are fine by us).
Cheers.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jan 11, 2024 18:48:31 GMT
Thanks, Beinidict. Do you know why it was moved to the Blessed Sacrament Chapel? Is it perhaps because of Traditionis Custodes and the regulations on having a TLM in regular parish churches (as opposed to chapels)? St. John the Baptist's looks like a beautiful parish church, especially the high altar, so that's unfortunate. I read on the Knock Shrine website (in a post from 2022) that the TLM, then at St John the Baptist's, had "a stable congregation" of 110-120 people, which is very good. I can't imagine the chapel fitting that many people. Yes, it's because of Traditionis Custodes Not growing. Congregations in both Limerick and Galway are very small. I don't believe Ireland's TLM communities, if that is the word, are the most family friendly places in existence. They give you the liturgy, but that's the extent of it. They're good for single people to meet like minded single people, but anyone who thinks that the TLM congregations in Ireland form a community is fooling themselves. The case in point is the annual Knock pilgrimage. Year after year, all the TLM congregations in Ireland are invited to participate (this was very much the mind of Archbishop Neary). But this has gained traction from neither the clergy nor the faithful. People attend as individuals but not as groups. Yet, if you talk among the congregations, they would ask why there isn't an organised pilgrimage to Knock. The answer is that there is, but there is precious little uptake by any TLM congregation as a body. And that's a very poor reflection. A similar question might be raised as to why many people go to great lengths to walk from Paris to Chartres but never interested themselves in the walking pilgrimages in Ireland. And the Chapitre de St Patrick would have been aware that one of the conditions of a foreign chapter attending the walk was to organise walks in their own countries.
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Post by maguidhir on Mar 13, 2024 2:20:19 GMT
I don't believe Ireland's TLM communities, if that is the word, are the most family friendly places in existence. They give you the liturgy, but that's the extent of it. They're good for single people to meet like minded single people, but anyone who thinks that the TLM congregations in Ireland form a community is fooling themselves. The case in point is the annual Knock pilgrimage. Year after year, all the TLM congregations in Ireland are invited to participate (this was very much the mind of Archbishop Neary). But this has gained traction from neither the clergy nor the faithful. People attend as individuals but not as groups. Yet, if you talk among the congregations, they would ask why there isn't an organised pilgrimage to Knock. The answer is that there is, but there is precious little uptake by any TLM congregation as a body. And that's a very poor reflection. A similar question might be raised as to why many people go to great lengths to walk from Paris to Chartres but never interested themselves in the walking pilgrimages in Ireland. And the Chapitre de St Patrick would have been aware that one of the conditions of a foreign chapter attending the walk was to organise walks in their own countries. Interesting, and too bad. Perhaps things will change in the coming years. Might Cork be a different story, with its FSSP parish? We have read good things about Mater Dei Academy, which is also based in Cork (and I'm sure has no connection to the FSSP). We intend to start our children on their homeschooling curriculum.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Mar 13, 2024 11:48:41 GMT
Interesting, and too bad. Perhaps things will change in the coming years. Might Cork be a different story, with its FSSP parish? We have read good things about Mater Dei Academy, which is also based in Cork (and I'm sure has no connection to the FSSP). We intend to start our children on their homeschooling curriculum. [/quote] Cork doesn't have an FSSP parish (that's Waterford; and it wouldn't be a parish yet). Cork had an active diocesan priest encouraging the situation there (and it was the most active congregation). The Mater Dei initiative is a separate thing and I think it's too early to form judgement. When it comes to homeschooling in Ireland (assuming the children would want to attend university here), be sure to have a plan as to how to handle the Irish language. I would have a lot of hope around the Waterford FSSP. And there seems to be a difference between the ICRSS in Belfast to Limerick. Limerick, I have to say, has been a disappointment, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the ICRSS which seems to be more about Father Gilles Wach making up tradition as he goes along than anything serious. Very much the buckles and bows side of the traditional movement. But there does seem to be something happening in Belfast. I must say the insistence of the title 'Canon' is very ill advised. There is no tradition of using the term 'Canon' outside cathedral chapters, not even in the orders of Canons Regular, which the Institute of Christ the King is not. And in Ireland Cathedral chapters mean something still - canons are normally long serving priests before they get the title. Seeing a newly ordained priest calling himself Canon is very ill advised, especially when tradition whether here or in the universal church doesn't warrant it.
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Post by maguidhir on Mar 16, 2024 2:46:45 GMT
Right, Waterford. You used the past tense when you mentioned the diocesan priest encouraging the TLM in Cork (and it "was" the most active congregation). No longer the case? As far as ICKSP (ICRSS) is concerned, I was under the impression that the priests travelled between Limerick and Belfast, so that the priests would be the same in each place. Or is "something happening" in Belfast due to reasons that have nothing to do with the priests? We have had a great experience with the (Anglican) Ordinariate, although I'm not supposed to call it that. I've heard similar things about the Oratorians. I had the privilege of attending one of their Masses in Oxford (the priest said privately afterwards that they get away with as much as they can while holding to the NO rubrics). Other than Belfast and perhaps Waterford, can you think of any parishes or quasi-parishes that show signs of promise or are already flourishing, whether they celebrate the TLM or otherwise? And not just in terms of liturgy, of course, but in terms of a healthy community surrounding the parish (a parish far from Dublin, hopefully).
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Mar 16, 2024 18:29:14 GMT
I think we can just forget about the Institute. Oratories differ from place to place and the Oratory in formation in Dublin is not a roaring success. In Cork, there seems to be a personality clash between the Bishop, whose brother is in the Oratory in formation in Dublin, and the previous Parish Priest of SS Peter and Paul, who is still saying the TLM there, but is a hospital chaplain.
When it comes to parish communities in Ireland, just don't expect what you are used to in the US. Ireland hasn't adjusted itself to the realisation that everyone isn't Catholic yet.
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Post by maguidhir on Mar 17, 2024 3:50:18 GMT
I think we can just forget about the Institute. Oratories differ from place to place and the Oratory in formation in Dublin is not a roaring success. In Cork, there seems to be a personality clash between the Bishop, whose brother is in the Oratory in formation in Dublin, and the previous Parish Priest of SS Peter and Paul, who is still saying the TLM there, but is a hospital chaplain. When it comes to parish communities in Ireland, just don't expect what you are used to in the US. Ireland hasn't adjusted itself to the realisation that everyone isn't Catholic yet. Hmm. I didn't expect such a negative impression of ICKSP. That's certainly not the impression I get of the Institute everywhere. I have no personal experience. I'm not used to much of anything in the US. I did live there during university quite a few years ago, but I've spent more time in Ireland (Counties Meath, Kilkenny, and Kerry, with work in Dublin) than in the US. The only TLM I've been to in Ireland was celebrated by a hermit priest who emerged on some Sundays to say Mass in Navan, and I haven't been apart of any parish community in the US, other than the university chaplaincy. To be honest, I'm not terribly impressed by American Catholicism, whether at the parish level or otherwise. It's an unfortunate export. But that's another thread. I'm now in Canada, with plans of returning to Ireland. The TLM parishes that I've been to in Canada have been quite remarkable in how diverse they are, in terms of not only race but of native language, age, class/income, with single people and families and elderly couples, etc. The same is true of the Ordinariate. I've read on this forum that the TLM in Ireland attracts mainly those of a higher socioeconomic class, which is surprising to me. That hasn't been my experience in Canada, and actually it wasn't my experience with the hermit priest, but that's a small sample size. On the other hand, the typical NO Mass in Ireland is a far less gruesome thing than in Canada (which imports its liturgy mainly from our southern neighbour). Edit: I should add that the above has much to do with Canadian demographics in particular parts of Canada (at least as far as race and language and nationality are concerned). So that's not a slight to the Irish Church in any way.
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Post by maguidhir on Mar 17, 2024 4:13:27 GMT
Cork doesn't have an FSSP parish (that's Waterford; and it wouldn't be a parish yet). Cork had an active diocesan priest encouraging the situation there (and it was the most active congregation). The Mater Dei initiative is a separate thing and I think it's too early to form judgement. When it comes to homeschooling in Ireland (assuming the children would want to attend university here), be sure to have a plan as to how to handle the Irish language. [/quote] I meant to ask you about your comment about homeschooling. For now, Mater Dei is at the top of our list for homeschooling options. They do seem to make Irish a priority, which is important to us (or at least to me). But how is that related to attending university in Ireland (not that I'm excited by that prospect)? I'm learning Irish myself and have been for the past eight months or so. My hope is that I'll be able to speak it home with the children, but my goodness it is a challenging language to learn without immersion. Any advice or recommendations would be much appreciated. I'm currently reading and listening to a graded reader by Olly Richards called Short Stories in Irish He is not a native Irish speaker, I don't believe, but it was the best I could find for reading and listening material (the reader is a native speaker). I have already completed Learning Irish by Mícheál Ó Siadhail
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Mar 20, 2024 17:01:25 GMT
I meant to ask you about your comment about homeschooling. For now, Mater Dei is at the top of our list for homeschooling options. They do seem to make Irish a priority, which is important to us (or at least to me). But how is that related to attending university in Ireland (not that I'm excited by that prospect)? Because a pass in Irish and/or a third language is required for many university courses. There are also Irish language requirements for certain jobs and professions. I think people only realise how crucial it is until they find it's a requirement which they lack. The best advice is begin by finding what is happening locally and try to tag on to local activity there. I don't think you can learn the language on a detached basis.
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