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Post by Askel McThurkill on Apr 6, 2009 17:41:24 GMT
Any of you who have attended both EF Latin and OF Vernacular will know the difference in the Nicene Creed, that at the lines "et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto, natus ex Maria Virgine, et HOMO FACTUS EST" everybody genuflects in the EF. In the OF English, the words (excuse my poor memory in both Latin and English), 'He became incarnate of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary and was made man'. The congregation are supposed to bow here but never do. The exception is on the feast of the Annunciation, when you are supposed to genuflect. I remember priests years ago in Whitefriar St and Clarendon St insisting upon it on 25 March, but now I find most priests omit the Creed altogether (which they absolutely shouldn't) on 25 March, as on other feasts. But I think it is to get over this embarrassment on 25 March. One year I even went to the OF Irish in the Blessed Sacrament Chapel on Bachelor's Walk (this is on every working day in Lent at 1.15 and on First Saturdays - but although it is easy to get Sunday Mass in Irish in Dublin and there are three venues for the Holy Week triduum in Irish in Dublin, there is no daily Mass in Irish. I wonder how demand for OF Irish compares with EF Latin in Dublin overall) anyway 25ú Márta agus gan aon Cré (25 March and no Creed).
Has anyone else any experiences on this topic?
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Post by hibernicus on Apr 7, 2009 8:29:43 GMT
I was at OF Mass in St. Brigid's in Belfast this 25 March and we all genuflected at this point. I was actually slightly surprised because I have recently for the first time in some years been trying to attend daily Mass and I wasnt aware of the OF genuflection at this point for the Annunciation.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Apr 7, 2009 14:01:07 GMT
Down and Connor is a relatively conservative diocese and St Brigid's in Belfast is particularly conservative within the diocese, so the correct rubric there doesn't surprise me.
I know a comparatively young PP in the Meath diocese who tells me it is difficult to bring the congregation with him in this genuflection on 25 March, even though he announces and pauses to do it himself. They are simply not used to it. One wonders why the rubric was maintained on only one day of the year.
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