Joseph Shaw of the England and Wales Latin Mass Society discusses how the tendency of the OF to emphasise social gathering means it is less well adapted to cope with epidemics than the EF. He also has some interesting comments on how the EF aimed at creating an otherworldly/transcendent atmosphere which was extended into everyday life by traditional devotions, whereas the OF emphasis on the ordinary, everyday and immanent is linked to the hostility of its promoters to such devotions. (A devil's advocate - that useful traditional office - might point out that the OF advocates were partly reacting against certain deformities which could grow out of the EF and its devotions - the whited sepulchre factor of people combining highly emotional devotional life with all sorts of cruelties and vices, because they saw religion as occupying a separate sphere from "real life". Italy is particularly notorious for certain forms of this, but the phenomenon wasn't unknown in Ireland either. That doesn't mean the solution hasn't turned out worse than the problem, but it should be borne in mind.)
maolsheachlann: I agree there is an over-emphasis on this among many Catholics.
Nov 19, 2019 15:07:04 GMT
maolsheachlann: Although of course it's important, too.
Nov 19, 2019 15:07:30 GMT
self excom: Do most Catholics actually know that to be a true catholic they need to believe that Mary is not the mother of God
Feb 15, 2020 14:27:33 GMT
maolsheachlann: I think you're going to have to expand on that one.
Feb 21, 2020 14:38:38 GMT
Arthur Miles Martin: You left out the four requirements for the holy Mass / Sacred Liturgy to be licit and valid. Proper ordination, proper form, proper intent and proper matter of pure wheat bread and pure grape wine. These are being violated everyday in most dioceses.
Feb 25, 2020 17:29:05 GMT
Arthur Miles Martin: I lived through Vatican II. The worse thing that came out of it was the ten year EXPERIMENTATION WITH THE HOLY EUCHARIST. I attended a gingerbread Jesus Mass, a sexual-deviant Mass and I had a cousin tell me of a pizza and cola mass in Alabama.
Feb 25, 2020 17:36:38 GMT
Arthur Miles Martin: Each year the USCCB petitioned the Vatican for Communion in the hand and each year the Vatican's response was NO! Then after ten rejections the USCCB said but we have to because the People demand it. I was never asked, were you?
Feb 25, 2020 17:40:02 GMT
Arthur Miles Martin: Come Holy Spirit renew the face of the earth. What is coming is a just purification of the Church and the world first.
Feb 25, 2020 17:41:27 GMT
indie77: The doctrine of the trinity says God is not Jesus so Mary is not mother of God
Feb 26, 2020 10:19:36 GMT
hibernicus: Indie 77 seems to be independent of any knowledge of the actual doctrine of the Trinity. Is he using "God" to refer to God the Father only?
Mar 1, 2020 23:31:18 GMT
Ann Ellison : I recently heard or read that 2% of the country is about to begin leading the other 98%. Also, reading about France being conquered because they had turned their backs on God, shook me to the core. It is exactly what I see happening here. No one is doin
Jul 5, 2020 16:32:13 GMT
Young Ireland: @ann Ellison, where did you read this? I have not come across any private revelation saying that.
Jul 6, 2020 18:53:58 GMT
Renee: Blessings to all
Sept 26, 2020 4:16:25 GMT
monara: Can the rosary be any help to us during this covid19 pandemic
Oct 1, 2020 9:27:42 GMT
Nov 10, 2020 11:04:36 GMT
hey, how are you?: zzz
Nov 24, 2020 17:50:15 GMT
Peter de Blacam : Sad news about Fr George Rutler
Dec 11, 2020 11:52:23 GMT
GaryGooner84: Hi, How could I get in contact with Fr Ballini. Would he be willing to come to Derry to administer the Sacraments?
Jan 1, 2021 13:41:15 GMT
Young Ireland: Hi Gary, I think you've posted on the wrong forum. We have no links with the SSPX Resistance (or indeed the SSPX itself) and indeed quite a few of their political views (i.e. antisemitism) are downright repulsive.
Jan 1, 2021 20:30:01 GMT
Manuel Delgado: Does being anti-abortion equate to being pro-life? What are the implications for Catholic politicians?
Jan 9, 2021 11:10:16 GMT