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Post by redmond on May 29, 2008 10:51:16 GMT
Today (29/5/08) the IRISH CATHOLIC' front page headline reads LISBON OPPONENTS USING 'LIES TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE'. Inside this paper features a full page add for a NO vote indicating that this 'GODLESS' European constitution could be used to force anti-Catholic laws into Ireland. The article quotes an 'unnamed senior Catholic Church source'. Now to me this headline accuses a lot of sincere genuine intelligent people out there including a fine Catholic newspaper ALIVE of 'telling lies'. This is morally wrong, ethically repugnant to its advertisers and is cunningly using the Catholic Church for its purposes. It is my opinion the IRISH CATHOLIC does not deserve the name.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on May 29, 2008 11:18:25 GMT
Hey, bud, you might cool down the 'morally wrong' bit. If you look at David Quinn on the back page, he states clearly that Lisbon is not an issue of faith and morals as many of the 'no' sayers seem to believe it is and then lists his perfectly rational grounds for voting no. I'm in that camp - I'm voting no, but not because the EU is a kind of great Satan. Meanwhile, there are weirdoes out there suggesting kids are going to get chips stuck in them if we vote yes. This is rubbish, and so is the line that this is a ruse by the 'yes' gang. Some 'no' people do think like this.
I have to admit though, the picture of Dustin with the line - they didn't vote for us, so we'll vote no to Lisbon is funny.
The Irish Catholic doesn't loose its name over Lisbon. Now, Redmond, if you said that yer man Garry O'Sullivan should be turfed out of his editor job in the newspaper for saying Mary Mega-lula (as we call Mrs McAleese on the north soide) should be a bishop - now that's another story. And half the priests in the country would be right behind yah on the matter.
Askel.
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Post by molagga on May 29, 2008 17:32:26 GMT
The Irish Catholic doesn't loose its name over Lisbon. Now, Redmond, if you said that yer man Garry O'Sullivan should be turfed out of his editor job in the newspaper for saying Mary Mega-lula (as we call Mrs McAleese on the north soide) should be a bishop - now that's another story. And half the priests in the country would be right behind yah on the matter. Askel. Only half?
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Post by cassini on May 30, 2008 0:02:46 GMT
To call LISBON OPPONENTS liars is a sin against the eight commandment. In my book that is morally wrong to say the least. I know many out knocking on doors who do not deserve the name 'liars', and especially not coming from an unnamed Catholic clergyman. Europe refused to put God into their constitution in spite of a plea for them to do so from the Pope. I happen to have personal contact with a Polish MEP who informs me of the anti-God tactics of the EU all the time. If they get the power to impose anti-Catholic laws on us they will and only a fool of a Catholic would give them the chance to find such a way in an amendment to an amendment to an amendment that the clergyman and David Quinn couldn't find even if either tried to read the unreadable document. Now what about taking thousands of euro off the Libertas VOTE NO people for that full page add while at the same time virtually undermining their reputation by calling them liars in their front page headlines. Personally I would consult my solicitor if I were they. The editor was well aware of what he was doing and this newspaper should not be allowed by parish priests to be sold in catholic churches this week.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jun 3, 2008 13:08:52 GMT
This last post doesn't show any evidence of having read the front page article under discussion - and no matter what perceptions exist as to what the EU is, it is not axiomatic that it is anti-Catholic or anti-Christian per se.
One might look deeper into the newspaper and its contributors than pick out one or two pieces here and there that we don't like.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Jun 3, 2008 14:06:00 GMT
The Irish Catholic doesn't loose its name over Lisbon. Now, Redmond, if you said that yer man Garry O'Sullivan should be turfed out of his editor job in the newspaper for saying Mary Mega-lula (as we call Mrs McAleese on the north soide) should be a bishop - now that's another story. And half the priests in the country would be right behind yah on the matter. Askel. Only half? I thought I was being generous - plenty of Irish priests would be very happy answering to a 'Bishop Mary McAleese'.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jun 18, 2008 14:05:44 GMT
Is it true some priests have banned the Irish Catholic in their churches?
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Jun 18, 2008 19:41:53 GMT
Is it true some priests have banned the Irish Catholic in their churches? I hadn't heard that, but I did hear that some priest had banned the Redemptorist paper Alive. Does anyone else here know anything about either story?
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Post by sorbonnetoga on Jun 19, 2008 11:23:18 GMT
Since when is Alive a Redemptorist paper? The Editor (Fr Brian OP) is a Dominican, and the editorial address is St Mary's Priory, Tallaght! I'm sure that there are Redemptorists who are suffering spontaneous combustion at the thought of being associated with Alive. (Though it wouldn't do them any harm if they were!)
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Jun 19, 2008 12:13:37 GMT
I'm sure there are plenty of Dominicans who have already had spontaneous internal combustion at Fr McKevitt's work (Right now Alive!; before that Women Hurt By Abortion; and way back when, the Media Consumers Association in the '80s.
But could Michael be referring to Reality, which is a Redemptorist magazine which a lot of priests, even the more middle of the road ones, have looked askance at.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Jun 19, 2008 20:26:17 GMT
Since when is Alive a Redemptorist paper? The Editor (Fr Brian OP) is a Dominican, and the editorial address is St Mary's Priory, Tallaght! I'm sure that there are Redemptorists who are suffering spontaneous combustion at the thought of being associated with Alive. (Though it wouldn't do them any harm if they were!) Indeed. My apologies; my carelessness. I'm old enough to remember going (at the age of 10) to parish Missions given by real Redemptorists. By the way what about other orders? I discovered not long ago that the Holy Ghost Fathers are now called "Spiritans" and have one of the most fatuous New Age sites you could imagine — www.irishspiritans.ie. St Michael the Archangel ...
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Post by guillaume on Jun 20, 2008 23:48:36 GMT
Does Anybody know "The Curate's Diary" ? A paper with front page in pink. I know we can buy it in lots of news-agent. I found 2 exemplars in a church today, and took them... Sound very Medjugorgiste.... I have no opinion i never read it before....
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jun 23, 2008 13:43:48 GMT
I think the editor of the Curate's Diary has his heart very much in the right place, but is a bit of a Medgehead, as we call Medjugorgistes here.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Jun 24, 2008 14:14:30 GMT
Today (29/5/08) the IRISH CATHOLIC' front page headline reads LISBON OPPONENTS USING 'LIES TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE'. Inside this paper features a full page add for a NO vote indicating that this 'GODLESS' European constitution could be used to force anti-Catholic laws into Ireland. The article quotes an 'unnamed senior Catholic Church source'. Now to me this headline accuses a lot of sincere genuine intelligent people out there including a fine Catholic newspaper ALIVE of 'telling lies'. This is morally wrong, ethically repugnant to its advertisers and is cunningly using the Catholic Church for its purposes. It is my opinion the IRISH CATHOLIC does not deserve the name. Lisbon is over (for the moment). By why should anyone be shocked at the story of the use of lies in a political campaign by any side of the divide?
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Post by monkeyman on Jun 27, 2008 0:41:29 GMT
Today (29/5/08) the IRISH CATHOLIC' front page headline reads LISBON OPPONENTS USING 'LIES TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE'. Inside this paper features a full page add for a NO vote indicating that this 'GODLESS' European constitution could be used to force anti-Catholic laws into Ireland. The article quotes an 'unnamed senior Catholic Church source'. Now to me this headline accuses a lot of sincere genuine intelligent people out there including a fine Catholic newspaper ALIVE of 'telling lies'. This is morally wrong, ethically repugnant to its advertisers and is cunningly using the Catholic Church for its purposes. It is my opinion the IRISH CATHOLIC does not deserve the name. Lisbon is over (for the moment). By why should anyone be shocked at the story of the use of lies in a political campaign by any side of the divide? Former Labour Party leader Pat Rabbitte refered to it as an obnoxious publication...i couldnt disagree more...hes a funny fellow all the same though...auld Pat-his polotics shameful though..
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