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Post by cornelstown on Sept 19, 2008 18:56:14 GMT
Anglicans will be allowed most likely to retain their liturgical norms as has been the case with parishes in the past which have come home to the Catholic church. If there are married priests who are validly ordained they may very well be allowed to remain as practicising priests.
I don't feel that this is necessarily the appropiate forum to debating women priests or even if we should debate it since it has been defined clearly and unambigously by the church. Allowing in seminarians with past homosexual tendencies is a different issue, but there is no question that active homosexuality is a sin and a public and unrepentant manifestation of such warrants excommunication rather than any question of debate around the issue.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Sept 19, 2008 19:13:06 GMT
Anglicans will be allowed most likely to retain their liturgical norms as has been the case with parishes in the past which have come home to the Catholic church. If there are married priests who are validly ordained they may very well be allowed to remain as practicising priests. I don't feel that this is necessarily the appropiate forum to debating women priests or even if we should debate it since it has been defined clearly and unambigously by the church. Allowing in seminarians with past homosexual tendencies is a different issue, but there is no question that active homosexuality is a sin and a public and unrepentant manifestation of such warrants excommunication rather than any question of debate around the issue. I'm glad to see this thread being revived. The most active earlier posters, who were inclined to be a bit off-topic, have left the building (so to speak). I would expect that, as you say, Anglicans will be allowed to retain their liturgical norms and some married priests who are validly ordained may be allowed to remain as practicising priests. A separate thread on women's ordination could be interesting if anyone wants to start it.
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Post by Diane on Sept 19, 2008 22:29:08 GMT
From what I have read on the subject and emails with an Anglican friend the issues that present a barrier to connection are twofold: 1. The Holy See will not accept women as priests. 2. The acceptance of active homosexuals in the priesthood and the example of Robinson as a Bishop will be an issue that will not be accepted and never resolved. It seems that other 'disagreements' might well be a matter of compromise but the two above stated are firm. Personally, I totally agree with the Vatican's stance and applaud them for their resolve but then I must admit to being a cradle Catholic and taught by nuns. Wonder if what they taught me rubbed off.
Diane
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Post by cornelstown on Sept 20, 2008 22:38:16 GMT
If I may delve into making assertions about Anglicans of whom I openly admit to knowing very little... It seems that your friend would be on the more liberal side of the anglican community. The fact which she may or may not acknowledge is that there is has been deep disquiet about women priests and even greater disquiet about homosexual bishops. There are many people in the community who disagree but have been putting up with things in the hope that the community might move as a whole back to Rome. But now that it is becoming evident that their community is going even further in the wrong direction they are realising that they can't just cross their fingers and will just have to swallow their pride and move back. I think that the lack of awareness among the anglican laity that their liturgical norms can be retained is a big problem in fixing the public perception about catholics. As Catholics I think we would not realistically expect to gain those who agree with women priests and homosexual bishops into our communion,in the short term, but rather those who have been conservative for a long time but keeping silent about it
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Oct 6, 2008 17:47:13 GMT
As Catholics I think we would not realistically expect to gain those who agree with women priests and homosexual bishops into our communion,in the short term, but rather those who have been conservative for a long time but keeping silent about it I think most of those who come over will be from the Anglo-Catholic wing of the Church of England. There is very little of that in the Church of Ireland.
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