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Post by hibernicus on Feb 5, 2019 22:56:09 GMT
Here we see an example of the Oireachtas mainstream taking up today what the Trots were pushing yesterday - a demand for the extinction of Catholic education by regulation, in this case be insisting that relationships and sexuality education classes must not reflect the ethos of the school but must be based on a secular model. This is the problem with "let some schools go so the rest can be authentically Catholic". The students at the second link reflect the underlying problem, which is that to a considerable extent the schools have not been teaching Catholic RSE with any conviction, and for a variety of reasons society has undergone a complete transvaluation of values in this regard, so that the social ethos assumes that premarital sex is the norm and the idea that chastity is a virtue is too eccentric to be taken seriously. RTE has its own reasons for giving an amplifier to students who complain that the Catholic/Christian view is hypocritical and incomprehensible, but there is, alas, no reason to suppose that htey don't represent a majority who have been taught with near-complete lack of conviction. www.rte.ie/news/education/2019/0129/1026159-sex-education-schools/www.rte.ie/news/education/2019/0129/1026316-sex-education-students/
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Post by maolsheachlann on Feb 28, 2019 12:47:57 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Feb 28, 2019 23:34:26 GMT
In the late 1960s the then government formally denied it had plans to replace the Grand Canal with a motorway. Conservationists promptly recognised that this was so outrageous an idea that the government would not have bothered to deny it unless they were actually planning to do it. Note that this is based on the recommendations of an official government commission, and that Varadkar's denial that he is planning to remove holy pictures from hospitals etc includes a statement implicitly supporting the report's call to withdraw state funding from institutions which refuse to supply contraception and abortion. I suspect this is meant to prepare for a "compromise" - you can keep your holy pictures if you perform abortions in the hospitals where they are displayed. Better to burn them straightaway than do that.
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Post by maolsheachlann on Mar 6, 2019 14:37:28 GMT
Once again, this Ash Wednesday, there was a huge turn-out for lunch-time Mass in the UCD church. Two or three hundred people, perhaps (although I am terrible at estimating). Archbishop Diarmuid Martin celebrated as usual. He commented on how a priest from some church in New York's financial district told him they had thousands coming to get their ashes there, too.
I sometimes wish I could ask the varous members of such a congregation why they were attending that day and what it means to them. At any rate, I'm very glad so many people go to Mass on Ash Wednesday. It seems a good sign.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 24, 2019 19:57:22 GMT
Recently during "Pride Month", formerly known as the month of the Sacred Heart, I was walking down O'Connell Street and noticed how many rainbow banners were on display from businesses, how many people were strolling around displaying rainbow signs etc, and it suddenly occurred to me - This reminds me of Corpus Christi when I was a boy. The point of an old-style Corpus Christi procession was not just as an expression of private devotion - it was an expression of the society as a corporate body (including business premises flying papal flags or displaying religious emblems, trade unionists with banners,academics in their gowns, scouts and guides, Gardai and armed forces) consecrating itself and reaffirming a shared identity. In that sense it could be seen as an expression of "civic religion", with private dissent allowed but expected to keep quiet. In fact, some of the features resembled royal ceremonial, which also made that claim to embody what sociologists call the "sacred canopy" of shared social meaning. In the same way that Irish religious processions retained some of the features of their defeated royal rival, Pride seems to retain some of the features of religious processions as a way of defining itself against them. Rod Dreher discusses pride as civic religion at the link below. www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/lgbt-pride-social-justice-our-new-civil-religion/
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Post by maolsheachlann on Jul 25, 2019 10:22:14 GMT
Recently during "Pride Month", formerly known as the month of the Sacred Heart, I was walking down O'Connell Street and noticed how many rainbow banners were on display from businesses, how many people were strolling around displaying rainbow signs etc, and it suddenly occurred to me - This reminds me of Corpus Christi when I was a boy. The point of an old-style Corpus Christi procession was not just as an expression of private devotion - it was an expression of the society as a corporate body (including business premises flying papal flags or displaying religious emblems, trade unionists with banners,academics in their gowns, scouts and guides, Gardai and armed forces) consecrating itself and reaffirming a shared identity. In that sense it could be seen as an expression of "civic religion", with private dissent allowed but expected to keep quiet. In fact, some of the features resembled royal ceremonial, which also made that claim to embody what sociologists call the "sacred canopy" of shared social meaning. In the same way that Irish religious processions retained some of the features of their defeated royal rival, Pride seems to retain some of the features of religious processions as a way of defining itself against them. Rod Dreher discusses pride as civic religion at the link below. www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/lgbt-pride-social-justice-our-new-civil-religion/This is a huge topic, in my view. I think the subject of social bonds and the public square is one that should be discussed a lot more. I don't really agree that Gay Pride should be called a civic religion, since the function it serves (in the sense discussed here) isn't exclusive to religion-- it's also one served by nationalism and monarchy, to take only two examples. I think it's better just to call it a social ideal, or a shared ideal, or something like that. Homosexual acts and gender confusion are wrong, but I'm inclined to think that even Gay Pride is better than nothing in terms of the social function it serves. Society shouldn't simply be a shared living space, like a boarding house. It needs festivals and common aspirations and shared memory and so forth. Something is generally better than nothing. Fifty years ago, Ireland's street names and postage stamps and state occasions and so forth reflected an ideal of Catholicism and nationalism. Some people were left out by this. Now the place of Catholicism and nationalism has been usurped by secular globalist liberalism. Some people are left out by this, too. I think it was legitimate for the Catholic nationalist ideal to be hegemonic back then, so I accept that the secular liberal globalist ideal is hegenomic now and enjoys the symbolic privileges that entails. It's better than having a drab and colourless public square which is "inclusive" at the price of having no character at all-- the Millennial Spire is the perfect expression of this. On a deeper level, I think both gender ideology and globalism have a psychological significance-- or era is obsessed with the overturning of categories and the erosion of limits and boundaries. The homosexual is not simply a person who experiences same-sex attraction, from this perspective, but the embodiment of a whole philosophy of life.
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Post by annie on Jul 25, 2019 23:47:58 GMT
Recently during "Pride Month", formerly known as the month of the Sacred Heart, I was walking down O'Connell Street and noticed how many rainbow banners were on display from businesses, how many people were strolling around displaying rainbow signs etc, and it suddenly occurred to me - This reminds me of Corpus Christi when I was a boy. The point of an old-style Corpus Christi procession was not just as an expression of private devotion - it was an expression of the society as a corporate body (including business premises flying papal flags or displaying religious emblems, trade unionists with banners,academics in their gowns, scouts and guides, Gardai and armed forces) consecrating itself and reaffirming a shared identity. In that sense it could be seen as an expression of "civic religion", with private dissent allowed but expected to keep quiet. In fact, some of the features resembled royal ceremonial, which also made that claim to embody what sociologists call the "sacred canopy" of shared social meaning. In the same way that Irish religious processions retained some of the features of their defeated royal rival, Pride seems to retain some of the features of religious processions as a way of defining itself against them. Rod Dreher discusses pride as civic religion at the link below. www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/lgbt-pride-social-justice-our-new-civil-religion/How could any society accept such perversions? When the rot started is discussed here. www.hprweb.com/2019/04/the-new-acceptance-of-sodomy/
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Post by assisi on Jul 26, 2019 18:26:11 GMT
Recently during "Pride Month", formerly known as the month of the Sacred Heart, I was walking down O'Connell Street and noticed how many rainbow banners were on display from businesses, how many people were strolling around displaying rainbow signs etc, and it suddenly occurred to me - This reminds me of Corpus Christi when I was a boy. The point of an old-style Corpus Christi procession was not just as an expression of private devotion - it was an expression of the society as a corporate body (including business premises flying papal flags or displaying religious emblems, trade unionists with banners,academics in their gowns, scouts and guides, Gardai and armed forces) consecrating itself and reaffirming a shared identity. In that sense it could be seen as an expression of "civic religion", with private dissent allowed but expected to keep quiet. In fact, some of the features resembled royal ceremonial, which also made that claim to embody what sociologists call the "sacred canopy" of shared social meaning. In the same way that Irish religious processions retained some of the features of their defeated royal rival, Pride seems to retain some of the features of religious processions as a way of defining itself against them. Rod Dreher discusses pride as civic religion at the link below. www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/lgbt-pride-social-justice-our-new-civil-religion/This is a huge topic, in my view. I think the subject of social bonds and the public square is one that should be discussed a lot more. I don't really agree that Gay Pride should be called a civic religion, since the function it serves (in the sense discussed here) isn't exclusive to religion-- it's also one served by nationalism and monarchy, to take only two examples. I think it's better just to call it a social ideal, or a shared ideal, or something like that. Homosexual acts and gender confusion are wrong, but I'm inclined to think that even Gay Pride is better than nothing in terms of the social function it serves. Society shouldn't simply be a shared living space, like a boarding house. It needs festivals and common aspirations and shared memory and so forth. Something is generally better than nothing. Fifty years ago, Ireland's street names and postage stamps and state occasions and so forth reflected an ideal of Catholicism and nationalism. Some people were left out by this. Now the place of Catholicism and nationalism has been usurped by secular globalist liberalism. Some people are left out by this, too. I think it was legitimate for the Catholic nationalist ideal to be hegemonic back then, so I accept that the secular liberal globalist ideal is hegenomic now and enjoys the symbolic privileges that entails. It's better than having a drab and colourless public square which is "inclusive" at the price of having no character at all-- the Millennial Spire is the perfect expression of this. On a deeper level, I think both gender ideology and globalism have a psychological significance-- or era is obsessed with the overturning of categories and the erosion of limits and boundaries. The homosexual is not simply a person who experiences same-sex attraction, from this perspective, but the embodiment of a whole philosophy of life. I'd take the Millennial Spire (meaningless as it is) over pride parades every day of the week. At least Catholicism and Nationalism have histories, long struggles, philosophies, theologies, attempts to address the meaning of life and much depth. Gay Pride's intellectual pinnacle still boils down to your sexual preference (I was going to say something a little more crude and to the point but thought better of it).
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Post by maolsheachlann on Jul 29, 2019 13:19:01 GMT
This is a huge topic, in my view. I think the subject of social bonds and the public square is one that should be discussed a lot more. I don't really agree that Gay Pride should be called a civic religion, since the function it serves (in the sense discussed here) isn't exclusive to religion-- it's also one served by nationalism and monarchy, to take only two examples. I think it's better just to call it a social ideal, or a shared ideal, or something like that. Homosexual acts and gender confusion are wrong, but I'm inclined to think that even Gay Pride is better than nothing in terms of the social function it serves. Society shouldn't simply be a shared living space, like a boarding house. It needs festivals and common aspirations and shared memory and so forth. Something is generally better than nothing. Fifty years ago, Ireland's street names and postage stamps and state occasions and so forth reflected an ideal of Catholicism and nationalism. Some people were left out by this. Now the place of Catholicism and nationalism has been usurped by secular globalist liberalism. Some people are left out by this, too. I think it was legitimate for the Catholic nationalist ideal to be hegemonic back then, so I accept that the secular liberal globalist ideal is hegenomic now and enjoys the symbolic privileges that entails. It's better than having a drab and colourless public square which is "inclusive" at the price of having no character at all-- the Millennial Spire is the perfect expression of this. On a deeper level, I think both gender ideology and globalism have a psychological significance-- or era is obsessed with the overturning of categories and the erosion of limits and boundaries. The homosexual is not simply a person who experiences same-sex attraction, from this perspective, but the embodiment of a whole philosophy of life. I'd take the Millennial Spire (meaningless as it is) over pride parades every day of the week. At least Catholicism and Nationalism have histories, long struggles, philosophies, theologies, attempts to address the meaning of life and much depth. Gay Pride's intellectual pinnacle still boils down to your sexual preference (I was going to say something a little more crude and to the point but thought better of it). I wish it was that simple. Gay Pride at heart is not about gay rights but about subversion-- the term "queering" is used in academic literature to mean the calling into question of more or less everything, the elevation of repudiation to a virtue.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 30, 2019 20:47:27 GMT
I'd say "transgression" is a better word for it than "subversion". Subversion can be carried on without fully proclaiming itself - there's a reason why there's a long tradition of homosexual wit and irony - the whole purpose of transgression is to be "in your face" and to defy and humiliate the squares, and thereby to assert one's own power and confidence and shake off any feelings of guilt or remorse.
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Post by hibernicus on May 2, 2020 19:30:49 GMT
Not much, to judge by this TV series which has been an international hit and is based on a best-selling novel. Note the Irish author and subject-matter, and the fact that the chief commandment observed is Thou Shalt not Be Fat: unherd.com/2020/04/is-this-how-normal-people-have-sex/
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Post by hibernicus on May 20, 2020 22:27:53 GMT
Joseph Shaw picks up on a RTE report about a parish which has arranged for First Communicants to be given communion by their parents while watching a livestreamed Mass. He asks why it can't be delayed until it is possible to hold a gathering at the Church. Several US trad sites have picked up on this as exemplifying how Ireland has gone off the rails. What do you think? Is it a reasonable adaptation or subordinating the sacred to convenience? www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/do-it-yourself-first-holy-communions
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