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Post by maolsheachlann on Aug 27, 2016 19:50:03 GMT
I'm watching a discussion about reception on the tongue vs. reception in the hand. One person has said that, in some parishes, the priest asks people not to receive kneeling and on the tongue, or on the tongue at all.
Has anybody on this forum ever encountered such a thing? I can only think of two instances where any guidance at all was given regarding reception of Communion. I remember the priest in Ballymun asked people not to take the bread and dip it into the wine, at a time when communion in two kinds was being offered. (I use the terms 'bread' and 'wine' for convenience.) The other time was the sole occasion I attended High Latin Mass in St. Kevin's, and the priest explained that Communion should be taken on the tongue and kneeling.
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Post by hibernicus on Aug 30, 2016 19:58:20 GMT
I have heard of instances (more in North America than here) where priests actively refused to give communion on the tongue. When communion is given in both kinds it is usually announced that communicants can also receive from the chalice (which is given separately, except where it is done by intinction - i.e the host is dipped in the chalice). There ay be an assumption nowadays that communion in the hand is the norm; announcements would probably have been more frequent when it was being introduced (it was not officially introduced as the norm, but permitted, with considerable insistence by priests and teachers at ground level that reception in the hand was preferable).
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 23, 2022 18:39:23 GMT
This is worth revisiting in the light of the Covid regulations.
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Post by assisi on Sept 24, 2022 18:46:41 GMT
This is worth revisiting in the light of the Covid regulations. In one of my local churches there are now people receiving the eucharist on the tongue and kneeling. They usually wait to the end of the queue. I've seen one lady recently attending the Mass wearing what looks like a veil. In some of the other churches the priest has said, during and post-Covid restrictions, 'communion in the hand only'. So some people attend the Masses where they know the priest will have reception on the tongue. One drawback is there is no altar to kneel at, so it can be difficult for elderly people to get up from kneeling on the ground without the support of an altar. I'm sure reception on the tongue has increased since Covid, perhaps due to the current state of our world but also perhaps as a defiance to Pope Francis' seeming dislike of the 'rigid' conservatives....
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Sept 26, 2022 17:09:13 GMT
I have to say I am skeptical of the medical advice which recommended communion in the hand, which I believe was lazy and ill considered. Some studies by Polish and US doctors came up with the conclusion that it was safer to receive communion kneeling and on the tongue as the priest or deacon has a clearer view and can better avoid contact. It may seem counter intuitive, but it has a point. Yes, it is possible that contact with the tongue carries a greater risk of infection than the hand, but that is negated by other factors. First of all, people keep their tongues in their mouths most of the time. People touch doors, hand rails, furniture, their clothes, their faces and other objects with their hands on a constant basis. Nobody licks walls or chews church pews. And whatever chance there is that you might forget protocols and shake someone's hand on the way to church or in church, people presenting themselves for communion on the tongue are unlikely to have French kissed someone by accident. In addition, there were no cases of clusters either in places where communion was administered on the tongue, mainly churches using the extraordinary form Mass, or Orthodox or Eastern Catholic churches which administer communion under both species on a spoon which is placed in the communicant's mouth desirably without making contact (this growing reality - Orthodoxy has be a faster growing denomination in Ireland than Islam, despite what the papers say - was missed by the HSE). A lot of the continuing safety measures surviving from Covid are cant rather than science and the willingness of priests to defy canon law and give communion on the tongue is among them.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Oct 2, 2022 20:35:12 GMT
This is worth revisiting in the light of the Covid regulations. In one of my local churches there are now people receiving the eucharist on the tongue and kneeling. They usually wait to the end of the queue. I've seen one lady recently attending the Mass wearing what looks like a veil. In some of the other churches the priest has said, during and post-Covid restrictions, 'communion in the hand only'. So some people attend the Masses where they know the priest will have reception on the tongue. One drawback is there is no altar to kneel at, so it can be difficult for elderly people to get up from kneeling on the ground without the support of an altar. I'm sure reception on the tongue has increased since Covid, perhaps due to the current state of our world but also perhaps as a defiance to Pope Francis' seeming dislike of the 'rigid' conservatives.... It seems there are still priests refusing to give communion on the tongue. These are breaking Canon Law, and superiors or bishops allowing them to do so are acting in contempt of both the positive law and the perennial tradition of the Church. On the other hand, priests have the discretion to refuse communion in the hand. This is hard to believe if you are attending Mass anywhere other than the Extraordinary Form, but it is the case. There was also never any mandate to get rid of altar rails.
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