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Post by eircomnet on Aug 4, 2008 16:27:28 GMT
Good stuff, well done St. Conleth's!
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Post by royalosiodhachain on Aug 4, 2008 21:22:01 GMT
Looks like a nice day out. Be sure to wear your tiara, O'Siodhachain, and I'll know who to say hi to. Monkeyman, I'll recognise from the pictures.
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Braveheart, I wear rags that I pick out of my favorite garbage dumpster, so you will not recognize me unless you look at me through the eyes of Christ and have pity on me, a sinner and a bum.
Forgive me kind sir, facts and figures are way above my head of understanding. I deal with life by pennies and morsels of bread and many prayers to my God, Jesus Christ as granted to me through faith, hope and love.
I was simply trying to get your attention and it worked. When I write to you in my normal fashion, you ignored me. You still have not told my why, pray tell, do you find jokes depicting Catholics as hypocritical bungling idiots?
Unless you truly do wear magnifying glasses as an optical assist device and checkered pants with a small red bow tie assuming that everyone around you is not well dressed?
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 7, 2008 0:25:19 GMT
Re: "Well I know Kildare town well..the horses and all that...but if there were ever to be an Old Rite Mass it should be held in the White Abbey-still under the guardianship of the Carmelites as it has been since the 13th century. Interior has been somewhat foodled with but the altar is now free-standing with 3 steps leading up to it-perfect for the Extraordinary Form!!" You don't seem to know the Friary as well as you say, Monkeyman - strange nom de plume for a traditional Catholic - because you'd know that the top step in the Friary is too short to genuflect at. The Parish Church is a poor second but it's an improvement on a Mass Rock. Ye havent darkened the door of that Church in a while I'd say because there is plenty of room or perhaps you think a Padre needs enough space for an aircraft to take off? HMM? I've seen side-altars in many Churchs/cathedrals with as much. In fact for your information my little scottish friend I frequent that Church daily perhaps you think no-one else lives in the County Kildare...so enough of your nonsense. As for this term Traditional Catholic...I'm afraid you've lost me there-I don't consider myself one. There is only Catholicism and outside of it schism, heresy, paganism and Godlessness. The parish Church of St Brigid isnt only poor its dreadful
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 7, 2008 0:42:48 GMT
"there just might be some factuality to the claim by 1 Thomas Murphy of the St Conleths Heritage Committee that there are petitions from 7 parishes at present not that I'm questioning that or anything....it just seems a tad high" Poor Monkeyman - that's not even what the group is called! I know some of those involved and they limited the number of petitions to the 7 Parishes where the numbers were reasonable and where there was a suitable Church. As far as I know, each group consists of Parishioners making the request to their own Pastors, as SP suggested. Your a pedantic fool
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 7, 2008 0:53:02 GMT
And speaking of local contributions, this came into my 'inbox' yesterday. Saint Conleth’s Catholic Heritage Association invites you to honour the Holy Year of St. Paul by attending Holy Mass in the Traditional Latin Rite (Missal of Blessed John XXIII) on Saturday, 30th August, 2008, at 11 a.m., in St. Paul’s Church, Emo, Co. Laois, Ireland, followed by a tour of Emo Court and Gardens.
For the past 15 years, St. Conleth’s Catholic Heritage Association has been working prayerfully for the provision of the Traditional Latin Liturgy in the Diocese of Kildare and Leighlin.
God bless you!
Saint Conleth’s Catholic Heritage AssociationLooks like a nice day out. Be sure to wear your tiara, O'Siodhachain, and I'll know who to say hi to. Monkeyman, I'll recognise from the pictures. No doubt judging by the plugging you are doing for them-you're the founder. Why bother the OPW at Emo- I know the foreman there..I'll let him know you're coming. Note to Moderator: By the way Michael! You will certainly have noted that I didnt start this and I'm only returning fire at someone who for some reason (because they are incredibly strange and childish) has taken time to mock me. Braveheart? completly yellow!
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Post by braveheart on Aug 7, 2008 22:15:53 GMT
Re: "Well I know Kildare town well..the horses and all that...but if there were ever to be an Old Rite Mass it should be held in the White Abbey-still under the guardianship of the Carmelites as it has been since the 13th century. Interior has been somewhat foodled with but the altar is now free-standing with 3 steps leading up to it-perfect for the Extraordinary Form!!" Ye havent darkened the door of that Church in a while I'd say because there is plenty of room or perhaps you think a Padre needs enough space for an aircraft to take off? HMM? I've seen side-altars in many Churchs/cathedrals with as much. You can take my word for it. I was there the day that the Priest tried it out. His ankle was over the edge of the step. Maybe you think a Padre should be half mountain goat?
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Post by braveheart on Aug 7, 2008 22:18:00 GMT
Re: "In fact for your information my little scottish friend I frequent that Church daily perhaps you think no-one else lives in the County Kildare...so enough of your nonsense."
So where have you been for the last 15 years while some of us have been putting in the hard work instead of talking about it???
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Post by braveheart on Aug 7, 2008 22:22:59 GMT
No doubt judging by the plugging you are doing for them-you're the founder. Why bother the OPW at Emo- I know the foreman there..I'll let him know you're coming. The founder? Sure am. There are six of us left out of the original eleven and we all wonder what good all the talking is doing. Some of us are getting on with the job instead of arguing about the length of a Padre's lower leg!
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 7, 2008 23:08:41 GMT
Your the one whos arguing about the length of the "lower leg" of a priest and believe me Mass can be said there-Ive seen Mass said in tighter spots. 15 years eh? Did get permission for a Mass in Newbridge town and never acted upon it so dont level that type of nonsense at me. No wonder the St Conleths crowd never got anywhere with the likes of you involved. Prayerfuly me foot. Oh and In believe some people are now going to boycott the Mass due to be said there by the Priestly Fraternity of St Peter- how childish.
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 7, 2008 23:15:43 GMT
No doubt judging by the plugging you are doing for them-you're the founder. Why bother the OPW at Emo- I know the foreman there..I'll let him know you're coming. The founder? Sure am. There are six of us left out of the original eleven and we all wonder what good all the talking is doing. Some of us are getting on with the job instead of arguing about the length of a Padre's lower leg! I can only imagine the ages of the people involved-all over the age of 60 at the time and pushin 80 now. So in 15 years you never managed to get a regular Sunday Mass? I'd stick to your dayjob coz what ever your doin--you are doing it wrong-in fact they(St Conleths - if there is more than one active member in that I'd be surprised) would probably do better without you Braveheart judging by your behaviour.
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Post by braveheart on Aug 8, 2008 19:54:58 GMT
15 years eh? Did get permission for a Mass in Newbridge town and never acted upon it so dont level that type of nonsense at me. So your boasting that you got permission but didnt bother? Oh and In believe some people are now going to boycott the Mass due to be said there by the Priestly Fraternity of St Peter- how childish. Abuse me all you like but where do you get off spreading rumours like that? When is this Mass supposed to take place?
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 11, 2008 17:27:39 GMT
15 years eh? Did get permission for a Mass in Newbridge town and never acted upon it so dont level that type of nonsense at me. So your boasting that you got permission but didnt bother? Oh and In believe some people are now going to boycott the Mass due to be said there by the Priestly Fraternity of St Peter- how childish. Abuse me all you like but where do you get off spreading rumours like that? When is this Mass supposed to take place? This is rediculous- I made a typo...what i said was that your "group" got permission for a monthly Mass in the Kildare and Leighlin diocese and never acted upon it. Now, stop twisting the sitiuation around to make it seem as if I'm abusing you- I never asked for you to come on here and mock me and Royalosiochán in your introductory post on this thread...its not a rumour by the way...the Mass is a once a month and will be said by Fr Brendan Gerard FSSP and the boycott by a member of the St Conleths crowd is apparently not a rumour either. I have no more interest in debating with you and in continuing to defend my name from your childish antics here. You my friend have Kildare and Leighlin on the brain and should get out a bit more. The end.
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Post by braveheart on Aug 11, 2008 19:42:50 GMT
It is a lie that St. Conleth's got permission for a monthly Mass in Kildare and Leighlin and never acted on it.
It is a lie that St. Conleth's is boycotting a FSSP Mass in Kildare.
Obviously you know nothing except the basic fact that there will be a FSSP Mass in Kildare. It is cowardly to run when you are found out. What you have shown is that you cant be trusted with confidential information. We promised not to speak about the FSSP apostolate in Kildare until the details were settled and made public.
You also show just what a load of rubbish all your attacks on St. Conleth's are. St. Conleth's has achieved something that nobody in Ireland or Britain had achieved. Our Bishop has invited the FSSP to establish an apostolate in Kildare.
St. Conleth's was never jealous of the LMSI or EDI for having Masses. We were working for a solid foundation for the Latin Mass under the Bishop in Kildare. Kildare is going to have the only apostolate of a Latin Mass Order established by the Diocese in Ireland or Britain. As far as I know its not very common around the world either.
I wish the LMSI and EDI well. I wish anyone working for the Latin Mass and for the Faith well. I wish that people would stop hurling from the ditch and start being positive and productive. I wish Latin Mass organisations would stop trying to attack each other or trying to steal each others pilgrimages and concentrate on making themselves holy.
You should be ashamed of the way you post confidential things. You should be ashamed of not helping in your own home Diocese if you really do live in Kildare. You should be proud of any success for the Latin Mass even if someone else has achieved it.
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 11, 2008 20:40:41 GMT
It is a lie that St. Conleth's got permission for a monthly Mass in Kildare and Leighlin and never acted on it. It is a lie that St. Conleth's is boycotting a FSSP Mass in Kildare. Obviously you know nothing except the basic fact that there will be a FSSP Mass in Kildare. It is cowardly to run when you are found out. What you have shown is that you cant be trusted with confidential information. We promised not to speak about the FSSP apostolate in Kildare until the details were settled and made public. You also show just what a load of rubbish all your attacks on St. Conleth's are. St. Conleth's has achieved something that nobody in Ireland or Britain had achieved. Our Bishop has invited the FSSP to establish an apostolate in Kildare. St. Conleth's was never jealous of the LMSI or EDI for having Masses. We were working for a solid foundation for the Latin Mass under the Bishop in Kildare. Kildare is going to have the only apostolate of a Latin Mass Order established by the Diocese in Ireland or Britain. As far as I know its not very common around the world either. I wish the LMSI and EDI well. I wish anyone working for the Latin Mass and for the Faith well. I wish that people would stop hurling from the ditch and start being positive and productive. I wish Latin Mass organisations would stop trying to attack each other or trying to steal each others pilgrimages and concentrate on making themselves holy. You should be ashamed of the way you post confidential things. You should be ashamed of not helping in your own home Diocese if you really do live in Kildare. You should be proud of any success for the Latin Mass even if someone else has achieved it. I live at 29 , Kildare town, by the way you happen to be the most obnoxious self-rigtheous individual I've come across in many a year. Well obviously one of your group couldnt keep their mouth shut otherwise how did I come by this information hmmm?? You havent apologised for the way you mocked myself and Royalsiochán and you ignore this coz you were in the wrong.Your statement on wishing people would concentrate on making themselves holy is dreadful since your own actions make it ring hollow. I havent attacked St Conleths - you just perceive that because you are supersensitive. Not sure why you mention the Latin Mass Society of Ireland or EDI(whatever that is). Also its not a wise thing to say such and such is a lie - thats tantamount to calling me a liar and if you feel you would like to say this to my face then you know where you can find me. Ps - On mature reflection I ve editied this post to exclude my address as I realise that there could be (its not beyond the bounds of possibility and better to be safe than sorry, that some Pixies might like to send me hate mail etc) If you wish Braveheart you can contact me as the site allows for.
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Post by monkeyman on Aug 11, 2008 21:28:30 GMT
So you don't think I was delighted about the proposed Kildare Mass? Wrong there I'm afraid...of course I was-you'd want to be mad not to. Again your putting words in my mouth and painting me as a villain on this forum when the reality is the opposite. What I was disgusted with was the purported boycotting of the Mass by a member of your group. Read my posts properly would you. Now I really am finished with this thread-no doubt you will once again accuse me of running or something to that effect but in truth I've better things to be doing with my time.
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