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Post by hibernicus on Jun 23, 2019 1:22:59 GMT
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Post by annie on Jun 23, 2019 20:21:02 GMT
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Post by jaykay on Jul 1, 2019 23:06:34 GMT
Hibernicus said over a month ago: "Milder versions of these antics have been seen by anyone who has attended the March for Life in Dublin in recent years - expect them to be worse at the next march on 6 July as the Apostles of Molochianity celebrate their victory o'er the embryo"
I wonder, but won't be surprised at anything that they may shriek. Whatever insults may be aimed in our direction - they won't be original, that's for sure, given all they can do is mouth-off what they get from their Masters.
I also wonder how large our numbers will be next Saturday? Not that it matters, we'll be there anyway.
"Molochianity" - like it! Baalacht na h-Éireann.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 7, 2019 18:39:21 GMT
My prediction was off, as it happened. There were no counter-demonstrators in O'Connell Street, to general surprise. This was presumably because they had gone to the "Trans Pride March" which set off from Parnell Square to Merrion Square at 12 (the MArch for Life began at 2). The Trans march (slogan "Break the Binary" which for the uninitiated means that the idea is not to relocate individuals "born in the wrong gender" but to have a society where everyone is pansexual) had their rally in Merrion Square so the March for Life rally was assigned to the plaza in front of the Custom House. This may perhaps have slightly more space, but this was offset by inferior acoustics (in Merrion Square the sound is reflected back from the buildings, at the Custom House it is lost over the water). This is IMHO part of a process of marginalisation; having been moved away from the front of Leinster House years ago, the march is now not even allowed on the southside. (Another explanation I have heard is that the authorities wanted to keep the march away from Holles Street Hospital. Bernadette Smyth announced at the end of her speech that she was going to lead a vigil outside Holles Street, but I haven't heard how that went.) More to follow...
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 18, 2019 22:00:49 GMT
A few more thoughts: The only politicians who spoke were Peadar Toibin and Carol Nolan, though I think others were present. Strong New Irish representation - I was near several habited African nuns (I can tell they were African by their accents) chanting the march slogans including "Hey hey, ho ho, Simon Harris has to go". I think numbers may have been a bit down from the last (pre-referendum) march I attended - certainly there were fewer local banners and Parnell Square seemed less crowded. Some speakers talked of reversing the referendum - that has to be the ultimate aim, but at present it's whistling past the graveyard. "Building a culture of life" was much talked about - the best concrete example being a speech from the foundress of Giannacare. One slogan much in evidence was "The North protects" - a riposte to "The North is next". Events since then make that seem terribly fragile, despite the rearguard action being courageously waged by Nuala O'Loan, who has spoken out for the pro-life cause all through and deserves much credit. Lord Eames (former CI Archbishop of Armagh) has also spoken out strongly on imposing this on the north without consulting the people.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 18, 2019 22:04:29 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 26, 2019 18:19:04 GMT
This story didn't get nearly as much attention as it should. It should be a warning to anyone who thinks fusionism (i.e. combining laissez-faire economics with social conservatism) is unproblematic, and reflects a purely contractarian mode of employment. This was already well under way before the referendum (cf Majella O'Riordan's statement that when being disciplined in the early 80s for giving birth out of wedlock when a Garda, she was asked why she didn't go to Britain for an abortion) but the referendum certainly hasn't helped. www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/women-pilots-told-terminate-your-pregnancy-or-employment-1.3932081Exhibit B: The new issue of the PHOENIX reports on complaints by women journalists at the IRISH TIMES (led by Kitty Holland, whose advocacy of legal abortion you may recall) that they are being harassed by male colleagues whose behaviour does not come up to the feminist standards which MOLOCH'S HERALD preaches to the rest of us. One complaint was about women journalists being told "remember motherhood is a choice" (i.e. if you want to acquire one of these strange creatures don't expect your male colleagues - or management - to make allowances for your situation). This sounds awfully familiar somehow. Perhaps someone will make a film about the Tara Street Hypocrite when it has closed down like the Magdalen Laundries.
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 8, 2019 20:05:52 GMT
BBC report on rival pro-life and "pro-choice" demos in Belfast. Wish I could have been there. Was anyone else on the forum there? I saw somewhere else that Arlene Foster and UUP leader Robin Swann expressed support for the pro-life demo. This is a pleasant surprise, as there are elements in the UUP who like to stress their social liberalism to differentiate themselves from the DUP. www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-49620685
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 19, 2019 22:17:11 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 30, 2019 19:50:13 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 30, 2019 20:06:29 GMT
There is a line in the Tenebrae service where Jesus reproaches the Apostles for falling asleep in the GArden of Gethsemane while Judas is wide awake and labouring to betray Him to His enemies. This is brought to mind by last Saturday's Nuremberg Rally, aka March for Choice, in Dublin. The current legislation is not bad enough for them - they won't be satisfied until they have removed every last restriction however nominal which suggests that abortion involves a moral issue, and silenced every criticism of abortion. One of the persons behind it had a piece in the IRISH TIMES last week calling for the total suppression of conscientious objection on the grounds that it infringes the so-called "universal right" to abortion, which we are informed in said piece the majority voted for enthusiastically last year.. As Abraham Lincoln put it in reference to the slave states' demands that the free states must uphold the continued existence of slavery by returning refugees and suppressing denunciations of slavery: "A nation cannot long endure half slave and half free - it must be all one or all the other." THAT is what the majority voted for, in the hope that it would make the issue go away and let them go back to sleep. www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2019/0928/1078837-abortion-march-in-dublin/A few points: (1) This will help the pro-aborts to keep their cohorts mobilised. Failure to do so after the 1983 referendum was our biggest mistake. (2) These marchers were allowed to use Merrion Square and not shunted off to the Northside as the last March for Life was. Expect officialdom, encouraged by the RTE-IRISH TIMES axis, to treat the least whisper from the pro-aborts as louder than our loudest shouts as we tell the truth. (3) Note in one of the photos accompanying the RTE story, the sign reading YOU DON'T NEED AN UTERUS TO SUPPORT FREE SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTION. So much for the canard that only women are qualified to speak on abortion, which these people repeated at every opportunity so long as it was useful to them.
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Post by Young Ireland on Sept 30, 2019 21:40:34 GMT
There is a line in the Tenebrae service where Jesus reproaches the Apostles for falling asleep in the GArden of Gethsemane while Judas is wide awake and labouring to betray Him to His enemies. This is brought to mind by last Saturday's Nuremberg Rally, aka March for Choice, in Dublin. The current legislation is not bad enough for them - they won't be satisfied until they have removed every last restriction however nominal which suggests that abortion involves a moral issue, and silenced every criticism of abortion. One of the persons behind it had a piece in the IRISH TIMES last week calling for the total suppression of conscientious objection on the grounds that it infringes the so-called "universal right" to abortion, which we are informed in said piece the majority voted for enthusiastically last year.. As Abraham Lincoln put it in reference to the slave states' demands that the free states must uphold the continued existence of slavery by returning refugees and suppressing denunciations of slavery: "A nation cannot long endure half slave and half free - it must be all one or all the other." THAT is what the majority voted for, in the hope that it would make the issue go away and let them go back to sleep. www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2019/0928/1078837-abortion-march-in-dublin/A few points: (1) This will help the pro-aborts to keep their cohorts mobilised. Failure to do so after the 1983 referendum was our biggest mistake. (2) These marchers were allowed to use Merrion Square and not shunted off to the Northside as the last March for Life was. Expect officialdom, encouraged by the RTE-IRISH TIMES axis, to treat the least whisper from the pro-aborts as louder than our loudest shouts as we tell the truth. (3) Note in one of the photos accompanying the RTE story, the sign reading YOU DON'T NEED AN UTERUS TO SUPPORT FREE SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTION. So much for the canard that only women are qualified to speak on abortion, which these people repeated at every opportunity so long as it was useful to them. I still think they use that canard, only that they just apply it to *pro-life* men. Even then, when confronted by the sight of pro-life women, their response is to dismiss her as a relic of a bygone age. An adage about having your cake and eating it comes to mind...
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Post by hibernicus on Oct 4, 2019 20:50:41 GMT
Here's the party line about the ongoing "March for Choice", as recited by one of its chief ideologues to the ever-bloodthirsty GUARDIAN. Two details among its numerous enormities: (1) The doublethink about mother and baby homes. The infant mortality rate in them - which indeed was scandalous - is highlighted, though of course we can be sure it was less than the infant mortality rate in abortion clinics, and the M&B homes and illegality of abortion are lumped together as denial of "choice" which is like lumping together ULYSSES and kiddie-porn as "targets of censorship". (2) The term "pregnant person" is used in line with the latest ukaz of political correctness - that someone who is pregnant is not necessarily a woman; if they say they're a man than they are one and everyone must say so. www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/oct/03/why-irelands-battle-over-abortion-is-far-from-over-anti-abortionists
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 24, 2019 22:53:42 GMT
Just noting that yesterday's IRISH TIMES had a review of a book on HOW THE EIGHTH WAS REPEALED by Ailbhe Smyth and a couple of her cohorts, which amongst other things remarked on the importance for their campaign of changing the focus from rights to healthcare". Here's another example of placing healthcare before rights (just saying): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment Meanwhile, pro-lifers don't seem to be planning anything of the sort. This will ensure that the pro-choicers' version of events is the one accessible to future generations and will shape their view of it, and that by not analysing what went wrong we will condemn future pro-lifers to make the same mistakes over and over again.
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