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Armagh
May 23, 2008 15:07:13 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 23, 2008 15:07:13 GMT
Armagh is the primatial see of Ireland, founded by St Patrick in the fifth century. It has a Catholic population of over 220,000 served by 190 priests in 61 parishes. It comprises of practically all of Co Louth, most of Co Armagh, a substantial section of Co Tyrone and parts of counties Derry and Meath. It is one of four cross-border dioceses in Ireland. As a metropolitan see, its suffragan sees are Ardagh & Clonmacnois, Clogher, Derry, Down & Connor, Dromore, Kilmore, Meath and Raphoe. Its official website is: www.armagharchdiocese.org/ . Since 1984, there have been three archbishops of Armagh, all of them cardinals: Tomas Cardinal O Fiaich, between 1977 and 1989, now deceased; Cahal Cardinal Daly between 1990 and 1996, having previously been Bishop of Down and Connor (1981-1990) and before that Bishop of Ardagh and Clonmacnois (1965-1981); and since 1996, Sean Cardinal Brady. The current auxilliary in Armagh is Bishop Gerard Clifford. Bishop James Lennon held that position between 1980 and 1989. There is no history of widespread SSPX activity in this diocese. In Cardinal O Fiaich's time, a request was granted for a nuptial Mass in Clohogue Church near Newry. Cardinal Daly allowed a Requiem Mass in Cookestown, Co Tyrone. Most activity has happened since Cardinal Brady became primate. Since 2004, Ecclesia Dei Ireland have had an annual pilgrimage to the Shrine of St Oliver Plunkett in St Peter's Church in Drogheda, Co Louth. A requiem Mass took place in St Patrick's Cathedral, Dundalk, Co Louth in 2005 (the church is a mensal church but it is only colloquially known as a cathedral) and an anniversary Mass was offered for the deceased in this church the following year. Between 1998 and 2005, there was a quarterly indult Mass in New Mellifont Abbey (Cistericians of Strict Observance), Collon, Co Louth offered by two of the monks there. This was cancelled by the Abbot during the interregnum period following the death of John Paul II, but before the election of Benedict XVI. In 2007, Father Moreau ICRSS offered Mass in Cookestown, Co Tyrone. This was repeated by Father Wulfran Lebocq ICRSS in early 2008. A priest of the archdiocese, Father John McCallion, offered Mass in Clohogue Church near Newry (Co Armagh) in March this year. Cardinal Brady is said to have no objection in principle to the traditional Mass, but at present Father John McCallion priest is the only priest in the diocese known to say the traditional Mass publicly.
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Armagh
Jun 10, 2008 11:25:56 GMT
Post by Askel McThurkill on Jun 10, 2008 11:25:56 GMT
I hear rumours of things happening in a few parts of that diocese - do you know anything, Alaisdir?
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Armagh
Oct 31, 2008 14:54:59 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Oct 31, 2008 14:54:59 GMT
I hear the auxilliary bishop of Armagh, Most Rev Gerard Clifford has a policy of not permitting new Masses where there has never been a history of the Old Mass before which would effectively confines things to Mellifont Abbey where the Abbot is unrelenting.
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Armagh
Nov 24, 2008 14:52:03 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Nov 24, 2008 14:52:03 GMT
EF Mass will take place in Sacred Heart (Clohogue) Church, Newry, Co Down at 5 pm on Sunday 7 December. The Celebrant will be Father David Jones O Praem.
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Armagh
Apr 17, 2009 13:32:02 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Apr 17, 2009 13:32:02 GMT
It is surprising how little we hear of the primatial see, but I have a question. Does anyone now anybody living in or near Dundalk who is interested in attending the EF Latin Mass in Dundalk Town, I would be interested in hearing from them. It may not be so difficult to arrange something.
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Armagh
Aug 6, 2009 12:12:59 GMT
Post by loughcrew on Aug 6, 2009 12:12:59 GMT
The Latin Mass and Benediction was celebrated by Father David Jones in St. Peter's Church, Drogheda, before the relics of the martyr Saint Oliver Plunkett, on Saturday 25th July.
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Armagh
Aug 7, 2009 11:38:24 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Aug 7, 2009 11:38:24 GMT
The Latin Mass and Benediction was celebrated by Father David Jones in St. Peter's Church, Drogheda, before the relics of the martyr Saint Oliver Plunkett, on Saturday 25th July. Did Father Jones invite the congregation to attend his regular Masses at Stamullen, which is not far from Drogheda?
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Armagh
Aug 8, 2009 15:43:16 GMT
Post by loughcrew on Aug 8, 2009 15:43:16 GMT
Father Jones did not refer to Stamullen during the Mass. He gave his sermon on the life of the Welsh martyr, Saint John Roberts. The choir came from Dublin.For the last three years this Mass has been held nearer to feast day of St. Oliver Plunkett but it was later in the month this year.
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Armagh
Aug 9, 2009 16:25:32 GMT
Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Aug 9, 2009 16:25:32 GMT
Father Jones did not refer to Stamullen during the Mass. He gave his sermon on the life of the Welsh martyr, Saint John Roberts. The choir came from Dublin.For the last three years this Mass has been held nearer to feast day of St. Oliver Plunkett but it was later in the month this year. That's a lost opportunity. Having big Masses in venues is of little value if it doesn't somehow spur efforts to have a regular Mass. Drogheda is the largest town in the Republic of Ireland after the five cities of Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford, and is fortunate enough to have an every Sunday Mass in Stamullen which is very close, said by Father Jones. Not to inform those who came to the Drogheda Mass of this was, to say the least, very unfortunate.
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Armagh
Aug 11, 2009 10:11:31 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Aug 11, 2009 10:11:31 GMT
Another worrying aspect is there is a remarkable tardiness in allowing anything other than occasional Masses in the Primatial see.
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Armagh
Jan 3, 2010 22:02:36 GMT
Post by Michael O'Donovan on Jan 3, 2010 22:02:36 GMT
I am often in Drogheda at weekends and today (Sunday January 3rd), as I tend to do when I am there, I attended midday Mass in the Dominican Priory. I do not know who the celebrant was, but he celebrated Mass with the most perfect reverence and decorum, and preached a sermon about the Incarnation and the Persons of the Holy Trinity that was so cogent and eloquent that it should have been written down and published. I am going to try and find out who this priest was and publish his name on this forum.
But if you are in Drogheda, do not go near the Augustinians. You may find Father "Iggy" vested for Mass and trying to conduct a Lutheran communion service.
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Armagh
Jan 19, 2010 12:37:19 GMT
Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jan 19, 2010 12:37:19 GMT
A bit off topic, but my biggest problem with the Dominicans in Drogheda was the time I walked into Mass there to find a woman reading the Gospel.
I am not impressed with the fact that the Dominicans don't have their Mass or Confession times posted in their Church, but they don't fail to proclaim their adherence to child protection at several entrances. With the Augustinians, in fairness, the older priests are pretty good.
However, a visitor to Drogheda asked what was the point in the town having either OPs or OSAs as all both did was act as supplemental parish churches without giving anything in keeping with either order's charism. I fear that can be said about a great number of monastic churches of a great number of orders in a great number of town and cities in Ireland.
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Armagh
Jan 19, 2010 17:23:17 GMT
Post by hibernicus on Jan 19, 2010 17:23:17 GMT
A bit off topic as well - what exactly is the Augustinians' charism? The Dominicans I know are preachers; how might they express their charism (especially given that sermons are no longer the sort of draw they were some decades ago) - through Catholic media? To be fair, one function of the religious orders has been precisely to fill in for the weaknesses of the parochial system. We haven't realised this so much in Ireland because the parochial system was so strong and well organised, and the bishops since the early nineteenth century have been so successful in subordinating the religious orders (in comparison with other contries where they are much more independent). The big problem is that the religious orders are in decline just as the parochial system is creaking with the declining numbers of secular priests.
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Armagh
Jan 20, 2010 13:42:13 GMT
Post by hibernicus on Jan 20, 2010 13:42:13 GMT
I will start a thread on "Religious orders - what is their role?" in the Catholic Forum and copy these posts there. We can continue the discussion there.
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Armagh
Jan 31, 2010 21:05:43 GMT
Post by Michael O'Donovan on Jan 31, 2010 21:05:43 GMT
I am often in Drogheda at weekends and today (Sunday January 3 rd), as I tend to do when I am there, I attended midday Mass in the Dominican Priory. I do not know who the celebrant was, but he celebrated Mass with the most perfect reverence and decorum, and preached a sermon about the Incarnation and the Persons of the Holy Trinity that was so cogent and eloquent that it should have been written down and published. I am going to try and find out who this priest was and publish his name on this forum. But if you are in Drogheda, do not go near the Augustinians. You may find Father "Iggy" vested for Mass and trying to conduct a Lutheran communion service. That excellent priest is Fr Ronan Cusack OP. Another brilliant sermon today, drawing together all three readings into something that again should have been recorded. Fr Cusack should be followed everywhere by someone with a dictaphone.
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