Diocese of Derry: St. Columba’s Church (Long Tower), 6 Victoria Place, Derry BT48 6TJ. Holy Days of Obligation: 12 pm. Celebrant: Very Rev. Roland Colhoun Adm, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
I am not quite sure what occassional means. However, the reference to Derry gives one the impression of mainly Holy Days of Obligation.
I am very glad to report it is much more than that! Father Colhoun celebrates the Mass several times a month - usually on a Wednesday or Thursday evening. They are not in the Long Tower church - but two different ones in the Derry area whose names are not on the top of my head right now. (One is a modern one. Needless to say I prefer the other one!)
More importantly, he celebrates very beautifully indeed. I have very seldom been more moved by a low Mass than I have been as Father Colhoun has celebrated it, especially with two dedicated servers he has.
Importantly, the sound of the Latin carried to the whole chapel. The effect was not remote, as it sadly sometimes is in other instances. More importantly, is the great sincerity of this priest.
I would encourage anyone near Derry to check it out. Father Colhoun has an e-mail list you can join to find out if it is Wednesday or Thursday, which church it is, etc.
Just a minor addition - Bishop Daly mentions in his second volume of memoirs, A TROUBLED SEE (Dublin: Four Courts Press, 2011) having celebrated the EF Mass under the 1984 Indult (presumably the 1985 celebration mentioned in the first post on this thread). As the extract below suggests, he didn't like the experience: pp230-231 "I have been disappointed and somewhat bemused by the recent efforts to promote the celebration of the Mass in Latin once again. I believe that this attachment to the use of Latin in the Mass is based more on sentimentalism rather than reality. I believe that it is divisive in the Church. Many of those who promote the return to the Latin Mass here in Ireland have very little knowledge and understanding of Latin and most of them have a much wider agenda than merely liturgy. Some years ago, with excited anticipation, I celebrated Mass in Latin under the Indult for a small group in Derry. I was deeply disappointed with the experience. It was a lifeless and somewhat meaningless celebration. The nostalgic memory and anticipation were much richer than the actual experience." As a regular TL attendee, I can think of one reason for the Bishop's response - the effect is cumulative and builds up over time, so one celebration in isolation after many years will tend to be a let-down.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Dec 4, 2014 9:09:46 GMT
I see Bishop Daly's point, and I heard it made by a number of attendees of Finian Hilliard's requiem Mass in Dublin in September. Prior to the introduction of the liturgical changes between 1965-71, there was a dialogue Mass in place, but not everywhere. The same is true of the postures of the faithful and a lot was down to the management of the local clergy. The late Bishop McNamee of Ardagh and Clonmacnois took an interest in liturgy, and this was reflected in his diocese. When Father Gabriel Burke celebrated the EF Mass in Macroom, what surprised him was the number of parishioners who had not frequented Masses in Cork or in Bantry, but who showed up with their missals and knew how to respond and what posture to take.
Bishop Daly came from a seminary situation at a time where every student had Latin both from school and in most cases, several years of serving Mass (most would have been through the diocesan college system too, which were technically minor seminaries). So his experience of the EF Mass would have been in idealised setting and I can understand how the silent low Mass was a disappointment for him. Now, the problem that traditionalists have which few seem to realise is precisely this point. In 1984 already, the critical mass of worshippers going to the EF had forgotten the responses and the cues for the postures, if they ever knew. And since then, many have grown used to a pattern of silent low Masses or choir-sung Masses. Despite of advocacy within the LMSI and experience on the Paris-Chartres walk (and other continental events), there has been little real effort to promote the dialogue low Mass and congregation-sung Mass, in spite of the fact this both the dominant style of EF liturgy in continental Europe and also what is envisaged in Benedict XVI's liturgical writings - the Pope Emeritus specifically says he would not want a return to the silent low Mass where the congregation were free to practice their own private devotions.
The example I think of was attending Ascension Thursday in St Kevin's. Had you poor knowledge of Latin and no missal, you would not have got anything of the significance of the Ascension as an article of faith. That's not a strength; that's a weakness. The trouble with the pattern of silent low Mass is it will attract a congregation, but it will not encourage new people that much; whereas the choir-sung Mass can bring people interested in the music and nothing else. The extra effort needed to prepare the congregation to somehow participate and not be simply passive is worth it. I know some celebrants would like to do this, but this requires time and energy. And some of the pious souls who attend the EF Mass wouldn't like it either. But if the EF is not prepared to be evangelical, it may not whither on the vine, but it will bear no great fruit either.
The Derry Mass at Longtower is now bimonthly: the first and third Sunday of the month.
I was graced to be there for Easter Sunday where Father Colhoun celebrated it very beautifully with four servers. There were over 40 there.
I hope this Mass may draw particular support. Now that its up to bi-monthly, with no problem it would seem from the new bishop, perhaps weekly is a possibility.
Derry being this country's 4th biggest city, it seems to me the need is outstanding for a weekly TLM there. It would seem a small trifle, but having automatic knowing that a Mass is available every Sunday makes a real difference for the less-dedicated who may not always keep looking at their calendar …
Very much hoping any readers nearby will support this and that a weekly Mass may happen …
Also: Father Colhoun usually celebrates Mass once during the week, usually at St. Colomba's, Waterside. Again: very beautifully. The day changes, but he can put you on a mailing list.
Details for that church plus Fr. Colhoun's email can be found here: link
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