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Post by hibernicus on Jul 18, 2015 19:30:12 GMT
Deacon Nick Donnelly has a post on the CATHOLIC VOICE website and in the current print journal calling for a grand exorcism of Ireland similar to that recently conducted in and for Mexico. (The BBC link from a few posts back on this thread about the Mexican Church's increasing interest in exorcism might be relevant here). Any thoughts? www.catholicvoice.ie/index.php/71-exorcise-ireland-and-do-it-nowThe CATHOLIC VOICE site seems to have developed quite a bit - I hadn't even realised it was more than a noticeboard, as it was when I last visited it a couple of years ago; since then I've only bought the print version.
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Post by Young Ireland on Jul 18, 2015 19:36:30 GMT
Deacon Nick Donnelly has a post on the CATHOLIC VOICE website and in the current print journal calling for a grand exorcism of Ireland similar to that recently conducted in and for Mexico. (The BBC link from a few posts back on this thread about the Mexican Church's increasing interest in exorcism might be relevant here). Any thoughts? www.catholicvoice.ie/index.php/71-exorcise-ireland-and-do-it-nowThe CATHOLIC VOICE site seems to have developed quite a bit - I hadn't even realised it was more than a noticeboard, as it was when I last visited it a couple of years ago; since then I've only bought the print version. I think he might be jumping the gun a bit there: given that Ireland was consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary a year or two ago, surely it would be prudent to wait a few years to see how things pan out before going ahead with something like that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 13:04:56 GMT
Deacon Nick Donnelly has a post on the CATHOLIC VOICE website and in the current print journal calling for a grand exorcism of Ireland similar to that recently conducted in and for Mexico. (The BBC link from a few posts back on this thread about the Mexican Church's increasing interest in exorcism might be relevant here). Any thoughts? www.catholicvoice.ie/index.php/71-exorcise-ireland-and-do-it-nowThe CATHOLIC VOICE site seems to have developed quite a bit - I hadn't even realised it was more than a noticeboard, as it was when I last visited it a couple of years ago; since then I've only bought the print version. I think he might be jumping the gun a bit there: given that Ireland was consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary a year or two ago, surely it would be prudent to wait a few years to see how things pan out before going ahead with something like that? I have heard it said that before something can be blessed, it should be purified first - similar to how the soul goes to Purgatory before going to Heaven. I think he may have a point. This country could do with cleansing. Now I shall read the article.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 13:50:49 GMT
I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. I think he made some decent points - especially about priests who will acknowledge neither Sin nor the Devil. A Great Exorcism would certainly make a statement to lazier "catholics" about where the Church stands on certain issues, and how seriously it takes them. Who cares if secularists get a laugh out of it? They laugh at the strangest things and support the most abhorrent anyway.
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Post by Ranger on Jul 19, 2015 19:33:33 GMT
I do feel a bit uncomfortable at the way in which he's talking about getting the consecration 'wrong.' This seems to me like viewing such prayer as a magic spell. Yes, God is giving out His graces to us, but we need to embrace those graces, then act on them and get to work. These things are only efficacious insofar as the people of Ireland open their hearts to these graces. God's hardly going to say, 'Ah-ah, you didn't get ALL the bishops together, no consecration or graces for you!'
That said, I take Antaine's point about the exorcism being a reminder of what the Church actually teaches about the supernatural nature of our struggle. We SHOULDN'T be afraid of what anyone thinks; that's allowing us to be paralysed by public opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 21:07:41 GMT
I don't think it was just about that though Ranger. He also seems to be implying that perhaps the intentions of those doing it weren't for the best reasons. Were they being explicit about why the country needed to be consecrated, or was it simply a gesture? I won't pretend to know either way. I will say that I don't hold the people involved in the consecration responsible for everything that's happened though. I don't think anyone is implying that.
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Post by hibernicus on Jul 28, 2015 19:35:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 20:35:16 GMT
The Satanists are some of the dopiest hypocrites you will come across. They based their "religion" off of everything that is opposed to Christianity, yet then they act shocked whenever people view them in a negative light. It's like when people who consider themselves "witches" get offended at negative portrayals of witches in film. Usually this lot will shrug it off with "We don't actually believe in Satan" - or in the case of "witches", they try to insist that what they do has nothing to do with Satan because Satan is a Christian "concept" - but quite frankly I don't think Satan really cares for excuses.
I do find the stupidity/laziness (in regards to taking the time to do research) of the Satanists rather interesting though. If this is the same statue I heard about some time back, it's a statue of Baphomet, as opposed to Satan. Also, LaVey's Satanists claim to basically see Satan as a symbol of worldly pleasures, along with other sins such as Pride; I have to wonder whether an angel whose name means "Adversary" should care for anything other than the destruction and fall of human kind. Of course revelling in sins leads to destruction, though I would imagine Satan would rather be known for the ripened fruit rather than the planting.
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 19, 2017 23:35:44 GMT
Rod Dreher draws attention to an article on Hilary Mantel (perpetrator of WOLF HALL, celebrator of Thomas Cromwell, etc) which cites passages in Mantel's memoir suggesting something resembling demonic infestation. He also recalls some odd experiences of his own. A useful reminder of the dangers of becoming fascinated with darkness www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/hilary-mantel-cursed-childhood-demonic/
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 19, 2017 23:40:20 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Nov 23, 2017 20:12:17 GMT
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Nov 24, 2017 13:46:15 GMT
Father Pat Collins is a Vincentian and he taught philosophy in All Hallows College for many years. He was heavily involved in the charismatic renewal and was a favourite speaker at prayer group conferences. This reaction is typical of the man in my experience. I think his heart in the right place but he needs to think about how to get the message across. I must say, this is the first I've heard of him in some time.
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Post by hibernicus on Mar 3, 2018 21:57:30 GMT
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Post by hibernicus on Apr 18, 2018 21:15:43 GMT
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Post by Account Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 22:59:33 GMT
William Friedkin, director of THE EXORCIST (and other films, some pretty ropey) makes a documentary about Fr Gabriele Amorth (just before the exorcist's 'death) featuring actual exorcism footage. I read Fr. Amorth's book recently - An Exorcist explains the Demonic. Well worth a read for anyone interested in such things. One fascinating insight of his: Satanists say their black masses at midnight or later because people are asleep and so less prayers are being said. Further corroboration of the efficacy of prayer! Since learning that, anytime I'm suffering a bought of insomnia, I'll say a rosary before falling back to sleep.
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