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Post by guillaume on Jan 22, 2009 15:51:55 GMT
his answer there : www.gloria.tv/?video=pwfajpm2dzdfsciqqjogBishop Williamson publicly denounce the existence of the Gas Chamber. Well to be frankly, i do not know. He is a bishop. And representative of the SPPX for most of the English speaking world. So, for most of the English speaking people Williamson is the SPPX.( which is not truth tough !). And now this.... Revisionist. Well not a surprise to me... but maybe for you...
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Jan 23, 2009 10:50:03 GMT
Yes - this is Dickie Williamson at his best all right. I hear he reckons "only" 200,000-300,000 Jews died during WW2 rather than 6 million.
I looked at Damien Thompson's blog on the subject yesterday (given the news that Benedict is planning lift the excommunications of the 4 SSPX bishops) and his view was that the problem with the SSPX wasn't confined to Williamson.
Just to clarify - lifting the excommunications doesn't automatically solve the problem with the SSPX - bishops, priests and deacons will remain suspended; chapels will remain prohibited ect, until if and when an accord is reached with the Vatican.
And if that doesn't happen - it will be curtains for the Pixies.
Lads, this is a case of now or never, to quote Elvis Presley. Miss this opportunity, and yous will have Beno declare ye're outside the Church. Finito. Kaput. Sayonara.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Jan 23, 2009 11:13:24 GMT
Has Bp Williamson ever been arrested?
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Post by guillaume on Jan 23, 2009 11:31:07 GMT
No. Well it depends from where the video had been shot. Revisionism is not illegal, i think, in some country. Bs Williamson lives in Argentina.
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Post by guillaume on Jan 23, 2009 18:14:36 GMT
This is the respond of Bishop Fellay regarding this issue : www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2009-0123-bishop_fellay.htmFair enough. Unfortunately, we all know most of their members are anti-semits and, consequently, for some of them - denied the holocaust. Stop the lying, tell the truth. May your Yes be Yes, and No, be no. Seriously, for the love of God, and the truth, tell us the Truth !
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Jan 27, 2009 11:18:52 GMT
No. Well it depends from where the video had been shot. Revisionism is not illegal, i think, in some country. Bs Williamson lives in Argentina. It was shot in Germany. So now German prosecutors are issuing proceedings against Williamson. Another country he can't go to.
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 28, 2009 0:55:43 GMT
Bishop Williamson's statement has been denounced by Bishop Fellay and by Fr. Schmidberger (former SSPX superior, now head of the SSPX in Germany). Gratias agamus.
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 28, 2009 0:57:07 GMT
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Post by guillaume on Jan 28, 2009 13:06:07 GMT
Absolutely. I am again delighted regarding this statement from Bishop Fellay and Fr Schmidberger... Those two statements make things pretty clear and shut up the neo-fascists from SPPX and also, and above all, the enemy of the SPPX and the reconciliation. It also shut up the enemy of the Church and the Pope. The reconciliation between the SPPX and the Church, now taking a further step because of the Pope Benedict the XVI and the intelligence and diplomatic attitude of Bishop Fellay.(The "very liberal pope" from Bishop Fellay seems now over for good). Things are changing, for the better, at last and for the Triumph of the Truth and the Glory of God and His Holy Church ! Those last days had been great for the Catholic Church. Deo Gratias !!!!
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Post by guillaume on Jan 28, 2009 13:37:55 GMT
Bishop Williamson's statement has been denounced by Bishop Fellay and by Fr. Schmidberger (former SSPX superior, now head of the SSPX in Germany). Gratias agamus. Yes and I would like to add something. It seems to me, now, than SSPX is on a turning point. I think than Bishop Williamson and his followers neo-fascits/sedevacs etc.... will soon leave the SSPX and rejoin the very minority of sedevacs around the world. The SSPX will certainly lose some of its followers. The one we do not want, as Michael G mentioned with reason in another post. But, the SSPX will gain some new followers who will trust her with an open heart and will see some ex-followers come back. The Church is dealing with its pedo and others. SSPX is dealing with its political maniacs and extremists. God is purifying its Church ! at last ! Thanks Bishop Fellay and Pope Benedict ! "At the End, My Immaculate Heart WILL triumph" Mary at Fatima.
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 29, 2009 0:29:56 GMT
Perhaps Bishop Williamson could be made nuncio to Iran a la Annibale Bugnini. I'm sure he and President Ahmadinejad could find a lot of things to agree on!
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jan 29, 2009 11:35:13 GMT
Perhaps Bishop Williamson could be made nuncio to Iran a la Annibale Bugnini. I'm sure he and President Ahmadinejad could find a lot of things to agree on! Sounds like an ideal speaker at the next Tehran conference on the Holocaust.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Jan 29, 2009 12:34:40 GMT
OK. Bishop Fellay has ordered Bishop Williamson to remain silent on issues pertaining to secular history and politics. Fine.
Here is where my problem is. Why did this have to wait til now? Why wasn't it done last year? Five years ago? After 9/11? Ten, fifteen or twenty years ago?
You know my respect for Fellay will only go up now if Williamson defies him, because it will indicate that Fellay could do nothing about it and I would appreciate that this is a problem Williamson has that is in control of him rather than him being in control of it. If Williamson stays silent, then I will have to ask why Fellay waiting this long to do anything about it and why Williamson has been acting the maggot for all this time.
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Post by hibernicus on Jan 30, 2009 12:35:02 GMT
Good point Alasdair. To be fair, it may be precisely the p[rospect of a reconciliation with the Church that has strengthened Fellay's arm on this. Here is an example of a critical response to the SSPX move which I would take rather more seriously than the usual liberal boilerplate. Fabio Barberi is an odd character in some ways, but he is very clever and religiously orthodox. (He also defines himself as left-wing, which makes a refreshing change from the tendency of a lot of orthodox Catholic bloggers to assume conservative = good. I am conservative politically myself but that can't be the whole story.) He is very sensitive about anything resembling fascism, for obvious reasons to do with Italian historical experience. This post of his is a necessary counterpoint to some of the recent eup[horia over the SSPX reconciliation. I suspect by the way that he is wrong on at least one point. He says Lefebvre resigned as Archbishop of Dakar over the issue of native clergy, but if I am not mistaken he consecrated his successor Hyacinthe Cardinal Thiandoum and Thiandoum subsequently acted as an intermediary in negotiations between Lefebvre and the Vatican. I suspect there is some basis for FPB's statement but he has phrased it carelessly, and that Lefebvre may have had some issue concerning native clergy but not blanket opposition to them. fpb.livejournal.com/368128.html
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