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Post by Harris on Oct 31, 2008 12:27:28 GMT
I would be of the opinion that there are many things that we as humans witness that we cannot explain. That does not mean we should jump to conclusions as to what these things actually are.
On this particular issue, I have not seen any evidence that would conclusively suggest to me that these sightings are a result of visitations from other planets.
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Post by Askel McThurkill on Oct 31, 2008 15:24:59 GMT
Look at it this way, if you see an object moving in the sky that you can't identify, it is an unidentified flying object. That doesn't mean there is life on other planets. It might of been either an optical illusion or a case of mistaken identity. Or suggestion - when I was a kid, myself and a friend both thought we saw a witch on a broomstick in the moonlight. It was Hallowe'en and we were hyped up with ghost stories. But do I believe I saw a witch as a kid now? Forget it.
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Post by redmond on Oct 31, 2008 18:55:36 GMT
I think there is general consensus that UFOs exist but are not of an extraterrestrial nature. But the real question is, can aliens exist within the Catholic faith? I gave my opinion on that one above and look fdorward to others.
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Post by hazelireland on Nov 4, 2008 10:05:30 GMT
I would be of the opinion that there are many things that we as humans witness that we cannot explain. That does not mean we should jump to conclusions as to what these things actually are. On this particular issue, I have not seen any evidence that would conclusively suggest to me that these sightings are a result of visitations from other planets. My sentiments exactly. There is no evidence at all that has been presented to suggest these are craft. There HAS been evidence presented to suggest they CANT be craft (for example the theory that nothing can travel faster than light makes it highly unlikely aliens are "popping out to see the earthlings"). So while we have no proof either way, we have no evidence to say yes and a lot of evidence to say "likely not". This of course has NO reflection on the existance of other life _somewhere_ which is a different topic completely.
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Post by Inedifix II on Nov 9, 2008 23:21:20 GMT
I believe Catholics only get things twisted when they have not been to the Confessional for some time. Dear Saint Stephen, I wonder, when you next go to confession, Will you admit to lying to your fellow Catholics? And will you comply, if you are told to desist from these lies? Or will you return and carry on lying to your fellow Catholics? Or will you convince yourself that it's okay to lie about atheists? And thereby avoid having to confess in the first place, about the lies you are telling to your fellow Catholics? I
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Post by hackenslash on Nov 10, 2008 0:30:37 GMT
A few things. The poll question is different from the question in the OP, which is a bit misleading. No matter.
Given the billions of galaxies in the universe, it would be only logical to assume that there is life out there in the universe. Whether or not we have been visited by any of it is another matter. Logic says no, simply because of the incredible distances involved. Bearing in mind that, at the speed of light, the light from some distant stars is only just reaching us now, 13 billion years or so since the Planck time after the big bang. Even within our own galaxy, and travelling at light speed, you would have to have been travelling for 100,000 years to get here from the other side of the galactic disc. That's even assuming some things that it's not safe to assume, such as the assumption that all intelligent life would be as curious as we are about the cosmos, enough to have developed interstellar travel, which is no, mean feat. We haven't managed it yet. At sub-light speeds, you would have to have been travelling for a ridiculously long time. You would also have to assume that they know we exist and where to look for us. If we don't know where to look for them, that again is not a safe assumption.
Finally, any appeal to Einstein is futile, as his belief was a deist one, at best. Even this is not clear. Much of what he wrote using the word god was not referring to a theist god, but what he called Spinoza's god. Spinoza was talking about god as being the sum total of the laws of the universe, and he thought, as did Einstein, that the idea of a personal, interested god was ridiculous.
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Post by hazelireland on Nov 10, 2008 11:17:49 GMT
Dear Hazelireland, Yes there is life out there somewhere called Heaven to which you are called through Christ Our Lord. Another non-sequitar, however I would gladly view your evidence for this claim should you have any to refer to.
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Post by guillaume on Nov 10, 2008 11:59:39 GMT
"People's Republic Of Mancunia" Where on earth is that ?
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Post by hackenslash on Nov 10, 2008 12:09:46 GMT
Manchester, England.
It's a partisan slogan for Man Utd fans
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Post by Hemingway on Nov 10, 2008 16:29:28 GMT
Dear Redmond, I believe Catholics only get things twisted when they have not been to the Confessional for some time. When is the last time you attended confession SS?
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