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Post by santiago on Apr 11, 2008 17:36:47 GMT
Just a thought! Has anyone out there every heard the 1st Eucharistic Prayer (aka the Roman Canon) in Ireland?? I've been wracking my brain trying to think and I can honestly say that I have no memory of ever hearing EP1 at a Mass in Ireland.
I'm sure it is used......but where and when? I fear many congregations would get restless if EP1 was used and the Mass, God forbid, went on longer than 35 minutes!
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Apr 11, 2008 21:28:08 GMT
Yes I have - in both vernaculars in use in this country and on a few occasions with all the saints mentioned.
But you have to look hard to find it.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Apr 11, 2008 22:19:51 GMT
Just a thought! Has anyone out there every heard the 1st Eucharistic Prayer (aka the Roman Canon) in Ireland?? Not in the last ten years or so.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Apr 12, 2008 20:35:05 GMT
I'm surprised. I know the rule in Masses is to use either the 2nd or 3rd Eucharistic Prayers. The rare one, though, is the 4th. I have heard the 4th, but not as often as the 1st. I don't recall ever having heard the 4th in Irish, though I have certainly heard the other three in Irish.
On the topic of Mass in Irish, the OF in Irish is a lot closer to the Latin original than the OF in English.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 21, 2008 10:07:57 GMT
I can say I heard the 1st Eucharistic prayer at an ordinary Sunday Mass in a rural parish in Co Meath a few weeks ago.
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Post by kieron on Sept 19, 2008 14:02:54 GMT
I heard the first Eucharistic prayer at a Mass two weeks ago in Christchurch, Eltham, southeast London. The Mass was celebrated by an elderly CRL priest. As is often the case in England, the OF liturgy was vastly superior to that in Ireland, with the congregation singing loudly, reciting the responses in unison (instead of racing each other) and sticking to the rubrics.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Sept 19, 2008 16:00:48 GMT
As is often the case in England, the OF liturgy was vastly superior to that in Ireland, with the congregation singing loudly, reciting the responses in unison (instead of racing each other) and sticking to the rubrics. I can say the same about OF celebrations in the one foreign church I am familiar with, the Carmelites on the Avenue Toison d'Or in Brussels. They also have an extraordinarily fine African choir on Sunday evenings.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Oct 24, 2008 12:42:11 GMT
I can say I heard the 1st Eucharistic Prayer about 30 minutes ago - I went to the 1 pm Mass in St Francis Xavier, Gardiner St, Dublin 1.
Yes, that church is Jesuit and the celebrant was indeed an SJ.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Aug 11, 2009 10:18:26 GMT
I heard a different Jesuit use the 1st Eucharistic prayer in Gardiner St yesterday - and he even named all the saints given in brackets in the text.
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Post by hibernicus on Aug 17, 2009 11:12:47 GMT
I remember hearing it at the Poor Clares' convent chapel on College Road in Cork when I attended Mass there about a month ago.
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Post by Beinidict Ó Niaidh on Aug 17, 2009 11:29:35 GMT
Obviously it is a lot more common than the original poster believed.
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Post by hibernicus on Sept 3, 2009 14:26:16 GMT
I heard it recently at St. Mary's in Chislehurst (SE London). This is a very conservative parish, and at the 11 o'clock NO Mass much of the Canon is said in Latin.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on Dec 9, 2014 8:55:23 GMT
I heard the First Eucharistic prayer on radio last Sunday (7/12/14). Louth/Meath FM broadcast Mass every Sunday from different parishes in Louth and Meath (Armagh and Meath dioceses). Quality varies, but there are a number of young solid priests in both dioceses comes through. I didn't get where the Mass was this Sunday, but the young priest saying it sounded as if he had a Louth or Northern accent rather than Meath. And as I said, he used the Roman Canon/1st Eucharistic prayer. Mentioning the saints in the canon..
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