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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Nov 16, 2007 1:19:59 GMT
When you set off to Mass on Sunday, do you - look forward to it, because you like everything about it
- wish it was done differently
- expect to dislike most of it
- go only because you have to go to Mass, and dread the experience?
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Post by prissysap on Nov 19, 2007 20:11:36 GMT
I wish I felt part of the community, and that the community was more aware of the One Who is the fullness of the Mass.
I go only as required, expecting to feel like some intuder who cannot understand their noise, lines negigible for Confession and all-forward for Communion, and large scale assault on the exits right after receiving Communion.
I have been told that such questionable behavior is too common in American parishes. I do hope it is different in Irish parishes - if for no other reason than the numbers of now-long-ago Irish-American priests to whom I owe some of my faith.
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Post by royalosiodhachain on Dec 1, 2007 23:14:20 GMT
Michael, My parish priest and I are like brothers to one another. I see going to Mass almost like going to visit any other of my brothers...to visit. Our Mass is just right in timing and always interesting because of the changing Gospel stories. People in my town are friendly and helpful so it is a joy to see them every week. We all work together to get the job done.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Dec 6, 2007 1:25:13 GMT
Michael, My parish priest and I are like brothers to one another. I see going to Mass almost like going to visit any other of my brothers...to visit. Our Mass is just right in timing and always interesting because of the changing Gospel stories. People in my town are friendly and helpful so it is a joy to see them every week. We all work together to get the job done. I'm glad you are so lucky with your priest and his Mass. Does he celebrate it strictly according to the rubrics or does he make up parts of it?
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Post by Verbum Dei on Dec 6, 2007 21:31:29 GMT
Our local Mass in Moone Co. Kildare is very good. The PP prays the Mass very reverently especially at the consecration. He slows down and gives everyone time to offer up the Sacrifice. I find that too many priests fly just through the consecration.
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Post by royalosiodhachain on Dec 7, 2007 22:30:41 GMT
Michael, Our parish priest is a former pharmacist. His attention to detail is impeccable and he follows the rubrics like a Swiss watch. I have not heard him once deviate into personal preference nor try to abandon his holy orders. I enjoy his prayers as well, frequently praying with us after mass the Divine Mercy Chaplet, the Rosary, the prayers to Saint Michael. So far he has been a real gem and the entire community loves him. I admit to you that I have been with priests who are rebellious and cantankerous, I am not with one at the moment. I try to find out what is ailing the priest when he is ornery and mean spirited, sometimes they are ill or have been abused themselves. They are only human although many people want them to be better than human.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Dec 10, 2007 23:55:23 GMT
Our local Mass in Moone Co. Kildare is very good. The PP prays the Mass very reverently especially at the consecration. He slows down and gives everyone time to offer up the Sacrifice. I find that too many priests fly just through the consecration. You are fortunate and, if I may say so, perhaps you should compliment him about it. Many priests of a particular age (maybe in their 50s and 60s) feel they ought to be "informal" or "accessible". Maybe your priest feels a spiritual urge to be more formal and reverent when he is performing the Consecration and offering the Sacrifice. There could well be other people in your congregation complaining that he is "slow" or "boring" so perhaps he could do with a bit of reassurance that he has got it right.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Jan 30, 2008 0:40:22 GMT
This thread gets more hits than any of the others but we have only a few posts (and thanks to those who posted them). Would anyone else like to post here? There are some people who think that nothing done in the Ordinary Form (the New Mass) can ever be good. I would like to hear from people with good examples of the Ordinary Form, especially in Ireland. It could help to close the gap between Traditionalists and those who are happy with the New Mass.
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Post by dixiegrl15 on Feb 22, 2008 9:28:48 GMT
Well when I go to Mass every Sunday morning I look forward to it, because I like everything about it!! Although we have to make a 68 mile commute to Mass (which isn't long compared to some people) it's the high light of our week! We go to a SSPX Mass and we have a wonderful priest! We have been going to this church long enough to be a real part of the community so seeing all of our friends on Sunday is wonderful too! I love Sundays!!
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Post by salvaporta on Feb 24, 2008 17:05:54 GMT
As I understand it, Motu Proprio is meant to try to bridge that gap, which I think is a very good thing. I mean, why can't we have both forms running side by side. They are both valid and both have meaning. I don't want to get into politics here, but I have to say that so far as England is concerned, there is a great reluctance, so far as Westminster is concerned to promote the MP, in any way. Because certain comments they have made make it clear that they associate it with old fashioned conservative political views, and they don't want these views coming back, by the back door as it were, which would threaten in anyway their liberal view point. The fact that these are the people who have presided over a great decline in the Catholic faith throughout England, is of course beside the point ! and the lack of vocations and the fact that we are hardly being well equipped to counter the threat of radical Islam.
The standard of priests varies greatly, certainly in England, and I was pleased to read of the excellent priests serving in Ireland. .
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Post by John on Feb 27, 2008 16:42:56 GMT
When I'm at Sunday Mass, I am just wishing it was the TLM and find myself resolving to work towards that end by finding people willing to come together and apply for TLM.
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Post by Michael O'Donovan on Feb 27, 2008 20:52:56 GMT
Welcome John. I'm sure you know the Latin Mass Society website www.latinmassireland.org. They can put you in touch with people in your area who might feel the same way.
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Post by pilgrim33 on Jun 28, 2008 13:35:47 GMT
I don't look forward to Sunday Mass, I prefer a weekday Mass. It is the abuses and lack of reverence that distracts me at Sunday Mass (these things happen at a week day Mass also, but it is less noticeable as there are less people and mostly elderly) So much talking out loud before and after Mass, mobile phones ringing and sometimes being answered, the way some women and young girls dress for Mass, people saying the Priests part of the Mass such as the prayer which starts with "Through Him, with Him, in Him..." and even the Consecration part, and the "In the Name of ..... " at beginning and end of Mass (At end of the Mass people give themselves the Blessing) People walking in to Mass at the Consecration or even afterwards, and going up to receive Holy Communion. Readers at Mass being an Extraordinary Minister as well, some Priests are SO against this, while others allow it. Also clapping after the choir sings the last song.
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Post by guillaume on Jun 28, 2008 21:46:40 GMT
I don't look forward to Sunday Mass, I prefer a weekday Mass. It is the abuses and lack of reverence that distracts me at Sunday Mass (these things happen at a week day Mass also, but it is less noticeable as there are less people and mostly elderly) So much talking out loud before and after Mass, mobile phones ringing and sometimes being answered, the way some women and young girls dress for Mass, people saying the Priests part of the Mass such as the prayer which starts with "Through Him, with Him, in Him..." and even the Consecration part, and the "In the Name of ..... " at beginning and end of Mass (At end of the Mass people give themselves the Blessing) People walking in to Mass at the Consecration or even afterwards, and going up to receive Holy Communion. Readers at Mass being an Extraordinary Minister as well, some Priests are SO against this, while others allow it. Also clapping after the choir sings the last song. I have a solution for you. I am 100 % with you and 100 % agree. This solution is the Traditional Latin Mass. The TLM, as we say, doesn't allow this kind of extravagance and disrespect. It will be too long to explain why, but trust me, the Old mass, the mass Before V2, is the only solution. Another solution is the ordinary form of the mass said with respect. Watch the mass said daily on EWTN, it is a Paul VI mass. But it is said with much reverence and respect. We have, because of the Ben XVI, a Motu Proprio. Ask your BISHOP, with most reverence and politeness, but firmly to have a TLM in your area. You might be surprised of the response. Try , just once, to assist a TLM somewhere, in Dublin for example. See and feel the difference. Welcome to this humble forum.
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Post by mairtin on Jul 17, 2008 18:19:51 GMT
I go because I like everything about it - the Mass is the centrepoint of my Faith.
Whilst I prefer NOM, I have no problems with the traditional Mass. People who argue endlessly about the NOM and the traditional Mass are missing the point completely, it is not the format of the Mass that matters, what matters is what is in your heart and soul when you participate.
If you want to argue about NOM versus Tridentine then I seriously recommend you read Lk 18:9-14, the story of the Pharisee and the tax collector in the Temple.
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