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Post by conor on May 22, 2008 23:28:22 GMT
Molagga.
My first question was to do with your original statement that there was more than one Traditional priest in Cloyne . By Traditional priest I mean one who celebrates the Traditional Mass. But you knew that, you just want as usual not to answer the question.
I am not the Adm of Cobh and I heard about the Latin Letter from a friend of one of the original members of St Colman's. It appears the members where boasting about the latin letter and thought it was very amusing. I am though beginning to think that you may be the Roman Monsignor. Why do I think so? I have heard descriptions of his writings and have seen them on another blog . To me your writings are very similar. Just to put the record straight I have never claimed to know Latin. I attend the Latin mass with my Latin English missal. I did not realise that one had to be an expert in latin in order to atend the Latin Mass
The Latin letter is suspicion because the original members have very close ties to the Monsignor in Rome. In fact he will be officiating at the wedding of a son of one of the members. Of course if you where part of the Traditional circle in Cork you would have known that.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 23, 2008 9:40:49 GMT
The major fault I have with Molagga is that he initiated a thread on TLM in the Cork Area (you could say the Cloyne Diocese, Cork & Ross Diocese and that part of Co Cork around Millstreet which is in the Kerry Diocese). He made a number of observations about the St Colman's Society for Catholic Liturgy campaign in Midleton and Fermoy which were challenged by Conor. Until pressed by Conor and me, Molagga attempted to turn the board into a class in the English language and in formal logic - which is notably lacking on other message boards (see for example the relevant discussion on the same document on the 'What does prayer really say' blog, which I didn't see Molagga intervening in). He thought little of tossing insults in the direction of Conor and me. This is one of the lenghtiest exchanges on this forum, yet it says remarkably little on the topic of TLM in the Cork area.
I hope Molagga has fun and enjoys his breakfast of waffles.
Coming soon: Internet chat participation for dummies.
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Post by Pilar on May 23, 2008 16:42:55 GMT
Coming soon: Internet chat participation for dummies. What's that?
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Post by molagga on May 24, 2008 7:28:15 GMT
Good morning class!
Just had breakfast on some delicious waffles drizzled in dark Glenfinnan honey - a great treat and one we can heartily recommend to our brace of intrepid contesters! It might well sweeten them a bit!!
I must say the standard of literacy has much improved and we are now approaching something like the possibility of discourse. However, some little things remain to be clarified.
Let's start with the idea of "the Cork area". In common parlance, that is taken to refer to the Cork metropolitan area. When we break down the big word here, we are talking of the city of Cork and something like a 15 mile radius of the centre city. That would normally bring you to about Cobh/Midleton/Watergrasshill/Burnfort/Inniscarra/Kinsale. All of these places are located within the dioceses of Cork and Cloyne. The Cork metropolitan area does NOT yet include Millstreet
Sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just must have another waffle!
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Post by molagga on May 24, 2008 7:37:58 GMT
As an aside: can anyone recall the writer who came up with the famous description of another brace of contesters whom he classed as "Vice supported by Crime"?
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Post by Mona on May 25, 2008 9:27:30 GMT
Good morning class! Just had breakfast on some delicious waffles drizzled in dark Glenfinnan honey - a great treat and one we can heartily recommend to our brace of intrepid contesters! It might well sweeten them a bit!! I must say the standard of literacy has much improved and we are now approaching something like the possibility of discourse. However, some little things remain to be clarified. Let's start with the idea of "the Cork area". In common parlance, that is taken to refer to the Cork metropolitan area. When we break down the big word here, we are talking of the city of Cork and something like a 15 mile radius of the centre city. That would normally bring you to about Cobh/Midleton/Watergrasshill/Burnfort/Inniscarra/Kinsale. All of these places are located within the dioceses of Cork and Cloyne. The Cork metropolitan area does NOT yet include Millstreet Sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just must have another waffle! There much better with golden syrup or maple syrup if you can get it. Good treacle is also delicious.
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Post by Micheal on May 26, 2008 14:09:35 GMT
Good morning class! Just had breakfast on some delicious waffles drizzled in dark Glenfinnan honey - a great treat and one we can heartily recommend to our brace of intrepid contesters! It might well sweeten them a bit!! I must say the standard of literacy has much improved and we are now approaching something like the possibility of discourse. However, some little things remain to be clarified. Let's start with the idea of "the Cork area". In common parlance, that is taken to refer to the Cork metropolitan area. When we break down the big word here, we are talking of the city of Cork and something like a 15 mile radius of the centre city. That would normally bring you to about Cobh/Midleton/Watergrasshill/Burnfort/Inniscarra/Kinsale. All of these places are located within the dioceses of Cork and Cloyne. The Cork metropolitan area does NOT yet include Millstreet Sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just must have another waffle! There much better with golden syrup or maple syrup if you can get it. Good treacle is also delicious. Personally, I prefer to nibble on a cold crubeen for breakfast. The best ones come from Macroom and there are loads of them available in the English Market in Princes Street. I'd recommend this special Cork delicacy not to mention drisheen and of course the famous Cork tripe which is all over the place in Cork.
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Post by molagga on May 26, 2008 15:59:09 GMT
There much better with golden syrup or maple syrup if you can get it. Good treacle is also delicious. Personally, I prefer to nibble on a cold crubeen for breakfast. The best ones come from Macroom and there are loads of them available in the English Market in Princes Street. I'd recommend this special Cork delicacy not to mention drisheen and of course the famous Cork tripe which is all over the place in Cork. Oh God, but you really cannot beat a Macroom crubeen!
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Post by molagga on May 26, 2008 16:02:08 GMT
Good morning class! Just had breakfast on some delicious waffles drizzled in dark Glenfinnan honey - a great treat and one we can heartily recommend to our brace of intrepid contesters! It might well sweeten them a bit!! I must say the standard of literacy has much improved and we are now approaching something like the possibility of discourse. However, some little things remain to be clarified. Let's start with the idea of "the Cork area". In common parlance, that is taken to refer to the Cork metropolitan area. When we break down the big word here, we are talking of the city of Cork and something like a 15 mile radius of the centre city. That would normally bring you to about Cobh/Midleton/Watergrasshill/Burnfort/Inniscarra/Kinsale. All of these places are located within the dioceses of Cork and Cloyne. The Cork metropolitan area does NOT yet include Millstreet Sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just must have another waffle! There much better with golden syrup or maple syrup if you can get it. Good treacle is also delicious. Thanks Mona for the tip. Tate and Lyle used to do great lines on these products. I suppose they still do. Perhaps Alaisdir might know? He is always good for a bit of treacle.
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Post by molagga on May 26, 2008 16:13:26 GMT
Molagga. I am not the Adm of Cobh and I heard about the Latin Letter from a friend of one of the original members of St Colman's. It appears the members where boasting about the latin letter and thought it was very amusing. Dear Conor, While not wanting to play the role of the 'agony aunt', I feel you need a good bit of help on this one. Time is against you. Reason has abandoned you - if ever it had hold of the musing you come out with. We know that Cupid can have farcical effects on the unsuspecting but letters in Latin is a bit too much. I doubt you would recognise the language let alone the content. And then, not having received it first hand leaves room for nothing but silly and outlandish speculations -which the love-struck call "suspicion". No, Conor, best see this for what it is: hearsay. Down the country the have a saying duirt bean liom go nduirt bean lei.... That saying says much. Your agony aunt, Frankie
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Post by conor on May 27, 2008 11:08:19 GMT
Molagga, for one who prides himself as a master of Logic, you have made a fatal error. If my argument is to be taken as hearsay then your opening thread is hearsay. If not then you are a member of St Colman's Society or one of the clergy who has received a letter. We can rule out the last option since you hold the clergy in such distaste. Since you are a member of the society that narrows it down to a handful of people. You opened this tread under the title of TLM in the Cork Area and mention Fermoy. You then later define the Cork Area as a 15 mile radius of Cork City. therefore by your own definition you should not have mentioned Fermoy.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 27, 2008 13:39:05 GMT
Conor seems to want to spoil Molagga's breakfast. Just remember that Molagga expects logic from others rather than himself.
I don't about you, but my favourite location for breakfast is certainly Rome and I enjoy either the capucino or espresso there.
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Post by molagga on May 27, 2008 14:14:08 GMT
Conor seems to want to spoil Molagga's breakfast. Just remember that Molagga expects logic from others rather than himself. I don't about you, but my favourite location for breakfast is certainly Rome and I enjoy either the capucino or espresso there. That first statement makes no sense whatsoever. Dare I say that it is senseless!! That puts me off a good deal more than my crubeen from Macroom at breakfast. There is nowhere like Rome for the "dolce vita", Ala-ist-dir, I can only envy you the delectation of an early morning coffee in streaming sunshine, pleasant company, and a civilized Catholic population. However, bear in mind that there are two "Ps" and three "C"s in "cappuccino"! We would not want to get that wrong now: would we? As for the "espresso", I thought that was a train.
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Post by molagga on May 27, 2008 14:27:04 GMT
Molagga, for one who prides himself as a master of Logic, you have made a fatal error. If my argument is to be taken as hearsay then your opening thread is hearsay. If not then you are a member of St Colman's Society or one of the clergy who has received a letter. We can rule out the last option since you hold the clergy in such distaste. Since you are a member of the society that narrows it down to a handful of people. You opened this tread under the title of TLM in the Cork Area and mention Fermoy. You then later define the Cork Area as a 15 mile radius of Cork City. therefore by your own definition you should not have mentioned Fermoy. Conor was a bold boy over the week-end and did not learn his smellings -as they say. How often must we repeat it? Logic has to do with the correct processes of reasoning - not with error. Why cannot poor Conor get it into his head that here the game is "valid" or "invalid" and not "right" or "wrong". As to the conditional syllogism that you pose in the second paragraph, I have to point out that there is no question that what you have to say is hearsay. You stated that yourself. Poor distracted Conor is beginning to sound like the Queen of Spades in Alice in Wonderland: words mean what I want them to mean. And so, he keeps changing them around in a flurry of total incomprehension. As for the rest of the assertions posed as conditional syllogisms - well, a tomcat would make a better hand of it. There is neither rhyme nor reason to it. I am beginning to think that we might not have a brain at all.
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Post by Alaisdir Ua Séaghdha on May 27, 2008 15:10:59 GMT
Ok. Even if all these points are taken, what has all this to do with Mass in either the Greater or Lesser Cork Area? Or the St Colman's Society campaign to humiliate the Dean of Cloyne?
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